Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:56:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another recompile to get it to work after breakage if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft the base profiles for

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Marius Mauch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Gentoo being about choice the new package.use should come before anything user set. I do not see any problem with this if it works in the same way as package.mask already works. Please, enlighten me. Because package.use is implemented in a very

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 17:49 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Gentoo being about choice the new package.use should come before anything user set. I do not see any problem with this if it works in the same way as package.mask already works. Please,

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Friday 21 October 2005 04:56, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another recompile to get it to work after breakage if the person is

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 02:44 am, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:56:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 05:56 am, Marius Mauch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 21 October 2005 01:23 pm, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: On Friday 21 October 2005 04:56, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another

[gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft the base profiles for every local use flag.

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dan Armak
On Thursday 20 October 2005 23:47, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* noFOO is used because FOO is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is included in the buildplan and to have sane defaults, certain flags are turned on. that was a great explanation however

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* noFOO is used because FOO is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is included in the buildplan and to have sane defaults, certain

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* noFOO is used because FOO is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* noFOO is used because FOO is on by default,

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 10/20/05, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx /

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:47 pm, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:03 pm, Alec Warner wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 05:47 pm, Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags.

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: On 10/20/05, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:34 pm, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
there is nothing hard about USE=-* cxx but while most here want to say 'fuck the users' (and i'm inclined to agree), i'd rather not field those bugs/questions/etc... The average gentoo newbie is not going to know anything about -* in /etc/make.conf. Mostly it's folks that have been around

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Thursday 20 October 2005 11:09 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: So basically if only 'experienced', yet misguided, folks are using '-*', then the only bugs to come up from this would be ABKB bugs, leaving them with egg on their face for messing with '-*' in the first place. Before anyone asks, ABKB

RE: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Chris Lee
Before anyone asks, ABKB is help-desk lingo for A**hole Behind Key Board. I always preferred that to the id10t error (idiot). See also: PEBKAC Thanks, Chris -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list