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While I was too young a developer when this thread first appeared, I now have a few things to report in this relaunch ;) On the NX servers side: * servers based on NX 2.1 code are now in portage, including the binary free edition from Nomachine (the NX developers), and freenx 0.6 * both of these servers now work on ~amd64 (multilib only though) * 2x terminal server and client are now in portage: GPL (even the NX client) and based on Nomachine's 1.5 code base * 6 (old) packages were removed from the tree, replaced by net-misc/nx * NX overlay provides a native 64-bit nx/freenx for the adventurous * bugzilla NX bugs count is down to 3 :) With fellow dev grobian, I've also started to get GNUstep in Gentoo back in shape (i.e clean, easy to use, up to date, ...). You can check the progress in the new gnustep overlay: http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/gnustep/wiki Improvements include: * support for new gnustep-make 2.0 * heavy rewrite of the gnustep eclasses and base ebuilds * less polluting of the user profile (no more need to source exernal scripts that tinker with the linker path) * easier-to-write ebuilds * version bumps everywhere (and a few new packages, as a promising-looking cairo backend) * under-the-hood fixes and enhancements here and there -- Voyageur NX and GNUstep Gentoo developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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For the sake of adding something interesting : The gnome herd has unmasked Gnome 2.18 for all arches except arm, alpha and fbsd. Mart (leio) has updated the current stable Gnome to 2.16.3 which should be available on all supported stable arches. Either way, enjoy. Rémi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Michael Cummings kirjoitti: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? The Java team has continued to get rid of generation 1 stuff slowly but steadily. The current situation for ~arch can be found here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~betelgeuse/unported.txt Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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In mozilla herd: During the last month and during the first day of the month we did: -Stabilize mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0 -Bump new versions fixing security bugs: -mozilla-firefox[-bin]-2.0.0.4 and 1.5.0.12, although we didn't put 1.5.0.12 on the tree as it is unsupported -mozilla-thunderbird[-bin]-1.5.0.12, 2.0.0.4 will be released in the next weeks -seamonkey[-bin]-1.1.2 and 1.0.9, but we didn't put 1.0.9 as almost all arches(except arm) have the 1.1 series stabilized In treecleaners herd: We've been doing the same work as always, i think we only p.masked one package for removal, and yesterday i did the monthly cleanup we do 2 months after a package is p.masked for removal net-p2p,net-irc: Doing version bumps and fix little bugs as always. ia64,x86: Stabilizing newer versions as always, stabilized gcc-4.1.2 and glibc-2.5-r3 alpha: On alpha we've taken a big step forward, we have some users who can test hardware-related things and they are _really_ useful(hi grknight and Blackb|rd). We stabilized kernel-2.6.21 yesterday as older versions failed with gcc4, and we're working on getting gcc-4.1.2 stabilized while we do the security bugs. I think i'm not leaving anything :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 07:03:45PM -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? Over in the council, we've been doing some status updates of this similar nature, mainly so we all know where we are at (for all the core things that each of the council members are doing, not just limited to council business). The last two meetings have been packed with other stuff, so we've missed that then, but I'm hoping to get back on them with the meeting later this week. Various Gentoo things I'm working on presently, outside of the regular everyday work of ebuild work and infra work: - GLEP on bug-wrangling process (nailing down the good and the bad of what our wranglers like Jakub are doing, so would-be wranglers can have a good idea of what to do). - Series of GLEPS on signing the tree/Manifests. So far it's 5 GLEPs in the set (the series working title is 'Security of distribution of Gentoo software'): 00 - Overview and Background Information 01 - Infrastructure to User distribution - MetaManifest 02 - Developer processes 03 - Handling of GnuPG for developers and keymasters 04 - Manifest2 hash policies and security implications Of this series, 00, 01 and 04 are pretty much complete, but 02 and 03 need a lot more work still. - Infra work for inbound SMTP servers (two of our older boxes being repurposed) since the existing box is overload with mail processing. - Slightly outside of Gentoo, but still relevant, I've been working on some things with Git so that it's closer to a working solution for CVS migration (the history slicing feature that we require is completed, and subtree slicing is in progress). -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer Council Member E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpVB0K6CXr2u.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Robin H. Johnson wrote: - GLEP on bug-wrangling process (nailing down the good and the bad of what our wranglers like Jakub are doing, so would-be wranglers can have a good idea of what to do). I'm sorry, I don't understand why something that's already happening qualifies as an enhancement proposal. This should just be a howto document. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:19:11AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: - GLEP on bug-wrangling process (nailing down the good and the bad of what our wranglers like Jakub are doing, so would-be wranglers can have a good idea of what to do). I'm sorry, I don't understand why something that's already happening qualifies as an enhancement proposal. This should just be a howto document. I'm specifically after writing it as an informational GLEP, because of some of the reactions I've seen from developers when Jakub touches stale bugs and tries to catch other things where the issue has just fallen through the cracks. -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer Council Member E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpCZhG1oPgLC.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? Hmm, well, recently I've been working on some bug fixes for eselect (mostly related to automake headaches), doing the occasional bump to vim and friends when there seems to be a useful new patch out (although additional help w/ vim would be appreciated), and hacking together some random scripts. I've kinda been lapsing in the past few weeks, though; need to finish up this job and get back to school. A few other things I want to try and do: - Help dberkholz with autofoo magic for ltsp (sorry I've slacked so long on this, I'll have more time to dig into it in a month). - Help work on some of the targets we have now for eselect 1.1.x (all of which probably need some more discussion before they're coded). - Document vim-related ebuild maintenance stuff, in the hopes of lowering the barrier of entry for folks, as well as making / improving a few scripts to make ebuild maintenance easier. -- Mike Kelly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Jeffrey Gardner wrote: Big Thanks (TM) to wltjr, Christopher Satwell, and Roy Wright (right up the road in Chappell Hill - Love the smoked sausage!)! With those leads and some upstream love I hope to have jmol up and running soon! Looks like you found me! Right up the road from where? jmol looks interesting, so best of luck with it. Have fun, Roy -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Michael Cummings wrote:
So, fellow devs, what's new with development?
As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies
on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of:
dev-java/ant-core
dev-java/ant-contrib
dev-java/commons-cli
dev-java/itext
dev-java/junit
dev-java/gnu-jaxp
dev-java/sax
dev-java/saxon
..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking
my butt:
Acme.jar
# unzip -l Acme.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/Acme.jar
Length Date TimeName
0 10-19-99 12:40 META-INF/
68 10-19-99 12:40 META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
3097 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/IntHashtable.class
479 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/IntHashtableEntry.class
941 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/IntHashtableEnumerator.class
6124 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/JPM/Encoders/GifEncoder.class
357 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/JPM/Encoders/GifEncoderHashitem.class
2912 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/JPM/Encoders/ImageEncoder.class
1261 10-19-99 12:37 Acme/JPM/Encoders/PpmEncoder.class
netscape.jar
# unzip -l netscape.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/netscape.jar
Length Date TimeName
0 05-11-00 04:11 META-INF/
68 05-11-00 04:11 META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
0 03-06-00 14:45 netscape/applet/
2076 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/AppletAudioClip.class
4377 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/AppletClassLoader.class
1394 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/applet/AppletProperties.class
8679 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/AppletSecurity.class
1149 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/AppletSecurityException.class
1367 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/AppletThreadGroup.class
1383 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/Console.class
3397 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/ConsoleFrame.class
904 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/applet/ConsoleInputStream.class
1305 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/ConsoleOutputStream.class
11491 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/applet/EmbeddedAppletFrame.class
3370 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/HistoryElement.class
1246 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/HorizontalRule.class
16795 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/applet/MozillaAppletContext.class
2775 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/MozillaFrame.class
3231 06-27-96 11:42 netscape/applet/MozillaWindow.class
0 03-06-00 14:45 netscape/javascript/
915 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/javascript/JSException.class
1077 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/javascript/JSObject.class
0 03-06-00 14:45 netscape/net/
4635 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/net/URLConnection.class
889 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/net/URLInputStream.class
1139 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/net/URLOutputStream.class
1469 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/net/URLStreamHandler.class
798 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/net/URLStreamHandlerFactory.class
0 03-06-00 14:45 netscape/plugin/
810 06-27-96 11:43 netscape/plugin/Plugin.class
---
76739 30 files
vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better
and better every day :D)
# unzip -l vecmath1.2-1.14.jar
Archive:
/var/tmp/portage/sci-chemistry/jmol-11.0/work/jmol-11.0/jars/vecmath1.2-1.14.jar
Length Date TimeName
0 08-06-01 13:51 META-INF/
71 08-06-01 13:51 META-INF/MANIFEST.MF
0 08-06-01 13:50 javax/
0 08-06-01 13:51 javax/vecmath/
4948 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple2f.class
4966 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple2d.class
5393 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple3f.class
6621 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple3d.class
5684 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple4f.class
5822 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple4d.class
08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple3i.class
4831 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple4i.class
1848 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector2f.class
1834 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector2d.class
2262 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector3f.class
2245 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector3d.class
2290 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector4f.class
2272 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Vector4d.class
799 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/TexCoord2f.class
708 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/TexCoord3f.class
1945 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple3b.class
1326 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Color3b.class
1466 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Color3f.class
1948 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Tuple4b.class
1410 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Color4b.class
1550 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Color4f.class
1671 08-06-01 13:50 javax/vecmath/Point2f.class
1655 08-06-01
Re: [Off-topic] Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 14:38 -0700, Steven De Bock wrote: Hi, I really like the way where this mailinglist is heading with this topic. I subscribed to this mailing list a while ago with the hope to read more stuff like this, rather than all those rants from the previous days. I've already seen a lot of requests for help passing this thread, covering a wide range of topics. I suppose these direct requests will certainly attract more people, who don't really know where to start contributing, to the Gentoo community. Keep it up a little longer ;) I agree wholeheartedly. The constant political bickering needs to stop. This is a development list and should be focused on development-related and technical discussions. As an example, things that need to be discussed with/about the Council can go to the gentoo-council mailing list. Topics to be discussed with/about the Trustees or the Foundation should go to gentoo-nfp. I think we all should do our part in asking people to keep things on topic, and for discussions to move to the proper lists. If it isn't about development, it doesn't belong here. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 19:16 +0100, George Prowse wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:45 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: Here is what I'm doing these days.. Let's see. I'm currently leading the 2007.0 release, which includes building LiveDVD releases for amd64/x86, LiveCD for alpha/ppc, and doing the entire PPC release, since Pylon is currently away due to school. Besides that, I'm coordinating the articles and DVD media for Linux+DVD magazine for their upcoming Gentoo issue. I've released new versions of catalyst (2.0.3) and genkernel (3.4.7) and will likely be releasing newer versions of both soon. I have been working on the Catalyst Reference Manual, which I expect to have ready soon to allow me to stabilize catalyst 2.0.x and finally put catalyst 1.x to pasture. Damn, and there was me thinking you did the GWN occasionally as well Don't even get me started on the GWN. I have been trying to drum up some help and things have gotten better, but it still takes me way too long (on probably the worst days for me, work-wise) to get the GWN out. I've been working with several excellent people to help with automation and also some great writers to get me content. If you guys would like to see the GWN getting closer to actually being on time, start writing summaries/stories and submitting them. They don't need to be in GuideXML or anything. Plain text is actually preferred unless you're really good at GuideXML already. (Goes to working on last week's GWN in hopes of getting it out tomorrow) -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Petteri Räty a écrit :
Rémi Cardona kirjoitti:
Oh and I'm working on an updated gnome2 eclass, as the current one reads
data in /var/db. Fixing this should fix gnome/xfce packages for paludis
users among other benefits. If anyone wants to fix env saving in
portage, it would help us a lot :)
Environment saving works fine as far as I can tell in
sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3. At least it preservers export FOOBAR properly
now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262
I've read the bug report but ours looks somewhat different. Ideally we
would like some exported variable in pkg_{pre,post}inst to be available
in pkg_{pre,post}rm. I tried it again this weekend and it still didn't work.
/me gently pokes portage devs
Petteri, thanks for your help.
Rémi
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Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? I'm currently fixing all the possible bugs in the herds/teams i am. Like ia64, doing all the bugs assigned to the team, from 130 bugs to 30 right now. There are some bugs i can't do, like the ALSA and cdr ones, since i only have remote access to the ia64 box, and no one in the team seems to have a soundcard in his ia64 box :) Mozilla is good, i'm working atm in mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.0_rc1, and put it in the tree ASAP. And we don't have too many bugs that affect so many people. net-p2p is good too, in this case is mainly version bumps and stabilizations. Like with net-irc, i already made some cleanup like a month or two ago. With treecleaners we have some packages waiting, as we have to get the 60 days for removal. We have some new bugs too, waiting for all the treecleaners to vote. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Michael Cummings wrote: When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in the last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having. Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of development? Surely there's a usenet channel where you can discuss conspiracy.gentoo at length? Or at least take it to the user list? /me stretches and blinks So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? I like this thread! The PPC team had a bugday yesterday and managed to get almost 70 bugs off of our list of open issues! Thanks to nixnut, mabi, dertobi123 and ndansmith for helping to clean up the bug list. :) Personally, I just picked up maintainership of the vanilla-sources package. If your arch hasn't already, please let me know in the cleanup bug what kernels you'd like to keep: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173710 Have fun! -Joe -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Joseph Jezak wrote: I like this thread! Indeed! This thread is fun - and fun is what Gentoo should be about. The PPC team had a bugday yesterday and managed to get almost 70 bugs off of our list of open issues! Thanks to nixnut, mabi, dertobi123 and ndansmith for helping to clean up the bug list. :) Well, it was a merely informal bugday, at least for the ppc people. But it was fun though and we were in need of such an event :) Conclusion: Let's have more bugdays! ;) Personally I'm fighting with getting the HPPA parts of the upcoming release done in time - looks quite promising as of now. Tobias signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
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On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 09:19 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I think we all should do our part in asking people to keep things on topic, and for discussions to move to the proper lists. If it isn't about development, it doesn't belong here. Yes and at min, if it does go off topic and remains on list. Please update subject to reflect it being off topic. Like has already taken place with this thread ;) -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Jeffrey Gardner wrote: Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of: dev-java/ant-core dev-java/ant-contrib dev-java/commons-cli dev-java/itext dev-java/junit dev-java/gnu-jaxp dev-java/sax dev-java/saxon ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking my butt: Acme.jar http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz netscape.jar I think this is a really old and obsolete jar. I found this thread which might be relevant: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t140950-package-netscapejavascript-does-not-exist.html vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better and better every day :D) This is an older version of part of the the java3D project. https://vecmath.dev.java.net/ In portage as dev-java/sun-java3d-bin /usr/share/sun-java3d-bin/lib/vecmath.jar Note, portage only has 1.3.2 and 1.4.0_pre5 Anyway, that's where I'm at Hope y'all are having better luck!!! je_fro -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote: Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of: ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking my butt: Acme.jar The entire Acme package is here:- http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz netscape.jar I couldn't find anything useful about this. vecmath1.2-1.14.jar (free version hosted by debian...it's looking better and better every day :D) # unzip -l vecmath1.2-1.14.jar The vecmath source is available from a CVS server via:- https://vecmath.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectSource The licence is https://java3d.dev.java.net/jrl.html and https://java3d.dev.java.net/jdl.html Debian version:- http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/vecmath1.2/vecmath1.2_1.14.orig.tar.gz http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/vecmath1.2/vecmath1.2_1.14-3.diff.gz -- CS -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 09:20 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote: ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking my butt: Acme.jar The entire Acme package is here:- http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz netscape.jar I couldn't find anything useful about this. I researched the heck out of it. Best I could find based on the classes within it's LiveConnect which I am pretty sure is a Netscape 4.x technology which I would assume is quite outdated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI#LiveConnect http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/plugins/pjava.htm Because of age, documentation much less source code or etc is quite hard to find. But pretty sure all the classes are in the sdk found here. http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/ That's all I got :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 09:20 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote: ..but finding sources I can use for the following jars has been kicking my butt: Acme.jar The entire Acme package is here:- http://www.acme.com/resources/classes/Acme.tar.gz netscape.jar I couldn't find anything useful about this. I researched the heck out of it. Best I could find based on the classes within it's LiveConnect which I am pretty sure is a Netscape 4.x technology which I would assume is quite outdated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI#LiveConnect http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/3.0/handbook/plugins/pjava.htm Because of age, documentation much less source code or etc is quite hard to find. But pretty sure all the classes are in the sdk found here. http://wp.netscape.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/ That's all I got :) Big Thanks (TM) to wltjr, Christopher Satwell, and Roy Wright (right up the road in Chappell Hill - Love the smoked sausage!)! With those leads and some upstream love I hope to have jmol up and running soon! -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:45 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: Here is what I'm doing these days.. Let's see. I'm currently leading the 2007.0 release, which includes building LiveDVD releases for amd64/x86, LiveCD for alpha/ppc, and doing the entire PPC release, since Pylon is currently away due to school. Besides that, I'm coordinating the articles and DVD media for Linux+DVD magazine for their upcoming Gentoo issue. I've released new versions of catalyst (2.0.3) and genkernel (3.4.7) and will likely be releasing newer versions of both soon. I have been working on the Catalyst Reference Manual, which I expect to have ready soon to allow me to stabilize catalyst 2.0.x and finally put catalyst 1.x to pasture. Damn, and there was me thinking you did the GWN occasionally as well George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Am Freitag, 6. April 2007 20:54:28 schrieb Doug Goldstein: Michael Cummings wrote: steev got hal 0.5.9 into the tree (it's masked) and we've both been solidly kicking it to behave how we need it. Anyone interested in testing it out would be very helpful. I can promise it won't come to your house and beat up your dog. But I can't promise you might have some little glitches here and there that I end up asking you to help debug. Overall it's a much more enjoyable version to work with then 0.5.7 and 0.5.8 ever were. We're currently sitting at 4 patches and that number will probably move to 5 over the next few days. They're fairly straight forward and not to difficult to manage. It works really fine here (finally, selecting CPU scaling schemes works again in KPowersave). The only thing, that bugged me was after installing it, a lot of daemons* crashed because hald did an autoreload because of it's inotify feature to reload rules as soon as there are changes to it's rules files. *daemons/applications that crashed: dbus powersaved - KPowersave Networkmanager - KNetworkmanager Also, the new hald didn't want to start, because dbus had crashed because of the auto-hald-reload. So we need to prevent this before it goes stable: a) print out a big fat warning before doing the update / make the update interactive, so we make sure, the user knows about the dangers b) find a way, to postpone the reload until the next reboot / disable auto-reloading for the currently running session This were the only problems I could find so far. What I really liked about the update: didn't have to re-emerge (revdep-rebuild) a single package.. ;-) Regards, Elias P. pgpVYakR5uzGo.pgp Description: PGP signature
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *daemons/applications that crashed: dbus powersaved - KPowersave Networkmanager - KNetworkmanager Also, the new hald didn't want to start, because dbus had crashed because of the auto-hald-reload. So we need to prevent this before it goes stable: a) print out a big fat warning before doing the update / make the update interactive, so we make sure, the user knows about the dangers b) find a way, to postpone the reload until the next reboot / disable auto-reloading for the currently running session This were the only problems I could find so far. What I really liked about the update: didn't have to re-emerge (revdep-rebuild) a single package.. ;-) Regards, Elias P. Odd that dbus would crash/restart - hald uses dbus, not the other way around - however, dbus should be restarted to read the new (possibly) hald.conf - the real fix would be for the apps that use hal to NOT bomb when hal is yanked out from under them. Glad it was fairly painless for you. And it is good to know that some people are using KNetworkManager - I don't have a machine currently with KDE installed (my KDE machine died) and so I haven't tested it at all recently. -- Steev -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Sunday 08 April 2007 03:16:12 Steev Klimaszewski wrote: Odd that dbus would crash/restart - hald uses dbus, not the other way around Yeah, I was wondering too, why this happened. however, dbus should be restarted to read the new (possibly) hald.conf - the real fix would be for the apps that use hal to NOT bomb when hal is yanked out from under them. Glad it was fairly painless for you. Is there any way stopping the kernel from inotify-ing a directory? Couldn't find one yet. So we could add a test to the ebuild, whether it is a upgrade from 0.5.9 and prevent reloading of the files until the next reboot. Maybe this could find it's way into an eclass, because other applications/daemons like dbus will surely suffer from the same problem when having the next $PV_MAJOR upgrade, so we could use the functions global. Should I open a bug for tracking this issue? And it is good to know that some people are using KNetworkManager - I don't have a machine currently with KDE installed (my KDE machine died) and so I haven't tested it at all recently. KNetworkmanager works really fine here, except of some troubles concerning ipw3945+WPA which should be fixed in the next NetworkManager release (I hope it gets released soon, currently, my WLAN is only WEP encrypted :-/ ). Elias -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 19:03 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in the last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having. Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of development? Surely there's a usenet channel where you can discuss conspiracy.gentoo at length? Or at least take it to the user list? /me stretches and blinks So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? Oh yeah development. Forgot that's what we do.. Here is what I'm doing these days.. Yesterday I pushed a new portage-utils that includes lots of enhancements to the qgrep util (Thanks TGL). With the help of others we are continuing our support of binary packages for lots of profiles (!releng stuff) which can be used for rescue in a pinch or fresh rapid installs as it's nice being able to setup a fully working current desktop in ~45 mins. http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/portage/local/misc/updates.php In due time I'd like to take each of the major profiles and setup 3 build environments for them. One for strictly server (-X -alsa) then another for (+gnome stuff) and another for (+kde stuff) I'm looking for help from c coders to improve the portage-utils(qmerge) applet and package/profile requests from people who would be interested in rapid install methods. -- Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? My current projects include: block_sync glep: really..I'm still working on it..it's almost done, this will enable developers to block the cvs-rsync sync to repair major tree damage. hopefully end of the month for this. Project Leads Glep: This is a new idea, mostly making tiny bits of work for project leads so we can get an idea of what is going on within Gentoo. Still in the 'soliciting initial feedback' phase. I'm also working on the app needed to support this idea (writing it in ruby for now). LDAP Improvements: Slowly working on learning ruby-activeLDAP and using it to punt perl_ldap because I think perl_ldap sucks. Once the newer shinier app is written I plan on writing up some training for it. This is for the overall move of data into ldap which is then used to generate things like userinfo.xml and other web-based data. One place for updates folks.. Gentoolkit: I just ported the new portage namespace to these tools and fixed a few bugs. Sadly I also wrote a broken patch to echangelog that got the newest rev of gentoolkit masked. Fixing echangelog is on my list of things to do. If you are better than me at perl (probably true for many of you) I could use some help here ;) Portage Unit Tests and /etc/portage: These are on the backburner for now but there are nice OO based classes for /etc/portage config files; this means if you were so inclined you could store that data in a db and write classes to read from the db instead of from files. This functionality is not yet enabled in trunk as I have no idea how to bolt it on to portage.config yet; but I'm working on it. The /etc/portage config rewrite is to enable me to test large classes like portage.config that read from tons of files (reading from files is generally a cardinal sin in unit testing). The testing of course is to enable the portage team to make changes and not break stuff. Most of the new features I've been working on are driven using Test Driven Development (TDD) and involve gutting old n busted functions; replacing with new ones. Still need more tests though. Ugh, and I thought I was trying to do less... Oh Summer of Code...reviewed nearly all of the apps. Voting is on Sunday? -Alec -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? steev got hal 0.5.9 into the tree (it's masked) and we've both been solidly kicking it to behave how we need it. Anyone interested in testing it out would be very helpful. I can promise it won't come to your house and beat up your dog. But I can't promise you might have some little glitches here and there that I end up asking you to help debug. Overall it's a much more enjoyable version to work with then 0.5.7 and 0.5.8 ever were. We're currently sitting at 4 patches and that number will probably move to 5 over the next few days. They're fairly straight forward and not to difficult to manage. Another thing we've done with HAL is move over to using quilt (dev-util/quilt). Anyone can join in the HAL patch fun by emerging quilt and following the simple steps. $ cd ~ $ tar zxf /usr/portage/distfiles/hal-0.5.9.tar.gz $ cd hal-0.5.9 $ ln -s /usr/portage/sys-apps/hal/files/0.5.9/ patches $ quilt push Now you'll see it apply our first patch. Keep doing quilt push until you're at the top then do a simple $ quilt new my_uber_l33t.patch Edit your files and you should have a nice patch to submit to bugzilla which is guaranteed to apply so we won't have the issues of user submitted patches not applying and taking a lot of work to make them apply. This helps us since we can get fixes into the tree faster for you and you become happier since your issues get fixed faster. -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 09:45 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: Here is what I'm doing these days.. Let's see. I'm currently leading the 2007.0 release, which includes building LiveDVD releases for amd64/x86, LiveCD for alpha/ppc, and doing the entire PPC release, since Pylon is currently away due to school. Besides that, I'm coordinating the articles and DVD media for Linux+DVD magazine for their upcoming Gentoo issue. I've released new versions of catalyst (2.0.3) and genkernel (3.4.7) and will likely be releasing newer versions of both soon. I have been working on the Catalyst Reference Manual, which I expect to have ready soon to allow me to stabilize catalyst 2.0.x and finally put catalyst 1.x to pasture. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 19:03:45 -0400 Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? dhcpcd-3.0.16 is going stable right now after many months in ~ARCH. baselayout-2 entered our svn repo a few days ago and is undergoing a few last minute fixes/tweaks before it enters ~ARCH. baselayout-2 works with the newest dash shell in portage right now, and will eventually work with busybox - there is a patch for busybox-1.5.0 that works [1] A new version of resolvconf-gentoo is about to be released which also works with dash and busybox. Also, the next resolvconf script for dnsmasq will (also due out soon) supports updating dnsmasq via dbus which means the local resolver is never down which is important. Thanks Roy [1] http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2007-April/026994.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Michael Cummings a écrit : So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Gnome team's working on gnome 2.16.3 and 2.18. 2.16.3 is just a maintenance release 2.18 is the latest and greatest, not that many user visible changes. Better gstreamer support, better hal integration, fixes in evolution, ... I encourage all gnome users to try it out and let us know if it works for them so that we can unmask it over the coming days/weeks. Oh and I'm working on an updated gnome2 eclass, as the current one reads data in /var/db. Fixing this should fix gnome/xfce packages for paludis users among other benefits. If anyone wants to fix env saving in portage, it would help us a lot :) Cheers, Rémi -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Rémi Cardona kirjoitti: Oh and I'm working on an updated gnome2 eclass, as the current one reads data in /var/db. Fixing this should fix gnome/xfce packages for paludis users among other benefits. If anyone wants to fix env saving in portage, it would help us a lot :) Environment saving works fine as far as I can tell in sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3. At least it preservers export FOOBAR properly now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163262 Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Hi, I really like the way where this mailinglist is heading with this topic. I subscribed to this mailing list a while ago with the hope to read more stuff like this, rather than all those rants from the previous days. I've already seen a lot of requests for help passing this thread, covering a wide range of topics. I suppose these direct requests will certainly attract more people, who don't really know where to start contributing, to the Gentoo community. Keep it up a little longer ;) Gheers, Steven -Bokke- De Bock Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Cummings a écrit : So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Gnome team's working on gnome 2.16.3 and 2.18. 2.16.3 is just a maintenance release 2.18 is the latest and greatest, not that many user visible changes. Better gstreamer support, better hal integration, fixes in evolution, ... I encourage all gnome users to try it out and let us know if it works for them so that we can unmask it over the coming days/weeks. Oh and I'm working on an updated gnome2 eclass, as the current one reads data in /var/db. Fixing this should fix gnome/xfce packages for paludis users among other benefits. If anyone wants to fix env saving in portage, it would help us a lot :) Cheers, Rémi -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
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Michael Cummings wrote: Anyone? - prepared feng, netebryo, libnemesi git ebuilds to make sure everything works before release - slowly doing something on ps3, no petitboot yet but at least now I have a complete cell toolchain in place (the documentation will be updated soon) - I still hadn't time to check the new blender in... (help in testing the beast would be welcomed) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in the last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having. Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of development? Surely there's a usenet channel where you can discuss conspiracy.gentoo at length? Or at least take it to the user list? /me stretches and blinks So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? -- -o()o-- Michael Cummings |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net Gentoo/SPARC Gentoo/AMD64 GPG: 0543 6FA3 5F82 3A76 3BF7 8323 AB5C ED4E 9E7F 4E2E -o()o-- Hi, I'm a .signature virus! Please copy me in your ~/.signature. pgpunOQNpiFbJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Cummings wrote: When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in the last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having. Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of development? Surely there's a usenet channel where you can discuss conspiracy.gentoo at length? Or at least take it to the user list? /me stretches and blinks So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? Anyone? I'm working on figuring out how to fix things I don't maintain (stupid lack of graphics *bonks the app*)..and trying to get motivated to deal with a package that has a nasty install to be upgraded to a new version. Does that count? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGFYVxSENan+PfizARAlASAJ91A85lHSoocCZHpQACxBJZZ4BaWACdHC33 ufXQQonw7lFh3G5hVORYiGs= =oyCR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
