Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread hasufell
On 01/26/2015 01:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to >>> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep >>> filenames the same/etc suc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Jan 26, 2015 11:01 AM, "Peter Stuge" wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > there wouldn't be an /etc/init.d, but rather a bazillion > > /pkg/guid/etc/init.d directories or something like that > > I guess an abstraction akin to pkg-config could solve the problem. > Sort of. You can't call a se

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to > >> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep > >> filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their > >> recommended configurations. > > > > Some people do it on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to >> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep >> filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their >> recommende

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to > maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep > filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their > recommended configurations. Some people do it on purpose, with the o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:18 PM, hasufell wrote: > > The problem I see now is that people will have a hard time to actually > switch, because unlike gnutls we cannot have openssl and libressl be > installed at the same time. > I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread hasufell
Anthony G. Basile: > On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: >> Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 >> hasufell napisał(a): >> >>> Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a >>> "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling >>> SUBSLOTs impossible. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/23/15 00:56, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell napisał(a): Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling SUBSLOTs impossible. If libressl and openssl would have matc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
But they don't. See my two blog posts on the matter. ABI compatibility is explicitly not. What they care about. On 23 Jan 2015 05:56, "Michał Górny" wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 > hasufell napisał(a): > > > Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a > > "l

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-22 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-23, o godz. 01:51:24 hasufell napisał(a): > Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a > "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling > SUBSLOTs impossible. If libressl and openssl would have matching ABIs, that wouldn't be necessar

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-22 Thread hasufell
Regarding the last libav discussion I think we should also go with a "libressl" USE flag instead of creating a virtual that makes handling SUBSLOTs impossible.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-15 Thread hasufell
Matthew Summers: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:59 PM, hasufell wrote: >> Dirkjan Ochtman: >>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, hasufell wrote: So libressl is meant as a drop-in replacement for openssl. >>> >>> Some caveats have already been discovered: >>> > > So, libressl is really nowhere

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-15 Thread Matthew Summers
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:59 PM, hasufell wrote: > Dirkjan Ochtman: >> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> So libressl is meant as a drop-in replacement for openssl. >> >> Some caveats have already been discovered: >> So, libressl is really nowhere near ready for prime time or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-13 Thread hasufell
Dirkjan Ochtman: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, hasufell wrote: >> So libressl is meant as a drop-in replacement for openssl. > > Some caveats have already been discovered: > > http://devsonacid.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/how-compatible-is-libressl/ > > Cheers, > > Dirkjan > The Werror thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-12 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, hasufell wrote: > So libressl is meant as a drop-in replacement for openssl. Some caveats have already been discovered: http://devsonacid.wordpress.com/2014/07/12/how-compatible-is-libressl/ Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-12 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:37:53PM +, hasufell wrote: *snip* > KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~arm64 ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc > ~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~amd64-fbsd ~sparc-fbsd ~x86-fbsd > ~arm-linux ~x86-linux" If a provider of the virtual is already stable, you can commit the virtual

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-12 Thread hasufell
Anthony G. Basile: > > I just did a quick count of all packages which refer to > dev-libs/openssl. I'm getting 590 packages. This will be quite a task. > For ~arch we could probably do that with a script. For stable arch we should ask maintainers to do it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-12 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/12/14 08:37, hasufell wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508750 http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/LibreSSL/ SHA256 139ac81c9478accd38a9eb667623d75997a2197cec36f184cd8d23e98a7e475b (yet none of it is signed) So libressl is meant

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2014-07-12 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508750 http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/LibreSSL/ SHA256 139ac81c9478accd38a9eb667623d75997a2197cec36f184cd8d23e98a7e475b (yet none of it is signed) So libressl is meant as a drop-in replacement for openssl.