Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:52:49 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's making the assumption that anyone looked at it, of course. Please note comment #9 on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198346. It was still ~8 days from then that the setuptools k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:35:52 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The original topic of this conversation was about what to do about an > arch that is obviously not as responsive as other arches. This is a > concrete example of that fact, which you requested. This seems to be > a t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Jackson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:52:49 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's making the assumption that anyone looked at it, of course. Please note comment #9 on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198346. It was still ~8 days from then that the setuptools keywo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:52:49 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's making the assumption that anyone looked at it, of course. > Please note comment #9 on > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198346. It was still ~8 days > from then that the setuptools keyword was added. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Jackson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:32:09 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps you should have explicitly stated in the bug that it was for security reasons and thus a priority. Make things easy for the arch teams -- if you have useful information like that, provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Jackson
When arch people get dozens to hundreds of bug emails per day, no, it's not. A simple "this is now a security issue, see bug blah" makes it an awful lot easier for arch people to prioritise -- emails that merely show blockers added or removed tend to get ignored because a) they're almost always me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:32:09 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps you should have explicitly stated in the bug that it was for > > security reasons and thus a priority. Make things easy for the arch > > teams -- if you have useful information like that, provide it in an > > e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Jackson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:18:09 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191550 - it took > 2 months for mips to keyword it. Security bugs are normally supposed to have enhanced priority for keywording, etc. Perhaps you sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:18:09 -0600 Martin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=191550 - it took > 2 > months for mips to keyword it. > > Security bugs are normally supposed to have enhanced priority for > keywording, etc. Perhaps you should have explici

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Martin Jackson
And what is the impact of that holdup? Have you explained why you consider that to be a priority to the arch teams in question? We had a sec bug on net-snmp that was held up due to dev-python/setuptools not being ~mips. The net-snmp folks added a python module to their distribution, and I ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:33:15 -0500 (EST) "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > So nothing that's a priority for the users of those archs then. Now > > please provide specific examples of how anyone is being held up. > > http://bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-05 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: So nothing that's a priority for the users of those archs then. Now please provide specific examples of how anyone is being held up. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202726 Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
Duncan wrote: [Fri Jan 06 2006, 09:15:42AM CST] > Tell me, from someone who obviously has some FBSD experience, what > advantages does Gentoo/FreeBSD have over the normal FreeBSD? Why would > someone use it who is currently using regular FreeBSD, and why are you > spending the time? There are obv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 08:15:42AM -0700, Duncan wrote: > > Tell me, from someone who obviously has some FBSD experience, what > advantages does Gentoo/FreeBSD have over the normal FreeBSD? Why would > someone use it who is currently using regular FreeBSD, and why are you > spending the time? Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Grobian
You better bring this up on the gentoo-alt mailing list. Please consider posting it there instead of going in a private discussion. On 06-01-2006 08:15:42 -0700, Duncan wrote: > And I definitely wish you well in your G/FBSD efforts, but when I > mentioned them on my local ISP's unix (*ix) group,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 06 January 2006 16:15, Duncan wrote: > And I definitely wish you well in your G/FBSD efforts, but when I > mentioned them on my local ISP's unix (*ix) group, the FBSD groupies > reaction was "Yuck!" Same for FreeBSD devs that tries to hinder us. But why? They think to be the keeper of T

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:23:52 +0100: > On Friday 06 January 2006 09:37, Duncan wrote: >> Well, for that matter, "distribution" is considered at least by my *BSD >> friends, to be a peculiarly Linux term.  From their perspective

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-05 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:36:28 +: > On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:26:03 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Anyone who thinks Gentoo isn't progressing simply isn't seeing the > | forest for all the trees, as they say. Another way of