Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 08:54:49AM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote: That said, amybe we can can contact DW and ask for a permalink of sorts? Or if we could mirrior the article on our site? Any other solutions? I know from Daniel that DW takes the exclusive rights to publish the articles for the first X months (I believe it was 6 months, but don't take my word on it). We are allowed to republish those articles later (as we've done with for instance an article about CVS), even in the form of a GuideXML document. Perhaps we can add all articles to our own repository? If we put a note on top stating note This article was originally published at the IBM DeveloperWorks website. /note and we get the agreement of the authors we should be all right. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- Documentation project leader - Gentoo Foundation Trustee The Gentoo Projecthttp://www.gentoo.org pgpaxNzNn2bHW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/10/2005 08:44 AM, Duncan wrote: To me, that's a valid link, one that Gentoo should be proud of. In deleting that page, it's as if we are trying to wash away some part of our past, the bad old days, that we are somehow ashamed of. To me, that just doesn't seem right. I think the intention was to remove everything that wasn't maintainable and didn't have anything to do with politics, but I do agree with you here. That 3 article series is really, really well written and IMHO should not be removed from the site. That said, amybe we can can contact DW and ask for a permalink of sorts? Or if we could mirrior the article on our site? Any other solutions? What this would also probably being up is why the bias towards those 3? - -- Shyam Mani | [EMAIL PROTECTED] docs-team | http://gdp.gentoo.org GPG Key| 0xFDD0E345 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCqQf/YZNYgP3Q40URAswoAJ4wft1csjuLDZeG8d1ESjl1ZDdaqQCgviJp pZs27+uBq+GRsL5hnhYoebs= =L/ui -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of articles.xml from website
maillog: 09/06/2005-20:14:33(-0700): Duncan types .. snip .. That said, there remains the practical issue of keeping links updated. I see a couple possibilities. One, there's the idea others floated -- note on the page the problem of keeping links updated as to why links aren't provided, and suggest searching on the titles listed, possibly with IBM DeveloperWorks listed specifically, or otherwise with publisher or original source acknowledged, to ease the search. Two, keep the links, but again, specifically acknowledge some of them move from time to time, list them as last verified links, and display a feedback mechanism (email, or web form based to prevent email harvesting, or whatever) prominently asking for reader link update submissions. If a reader says a link doesn't work and it's verified, with no new link immediately available, simply note that it has been verified dead and ask for updates. The idea here is to leave the links as well as acknowledging they may be outdated, but leave the work of providing updates to the readers. Three, keep a local copy of the articles unless you're forbidden to. Four, provide a link to a cached copy, e.g., http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fs.html -- \Georgi Georgiev \ I hate mankind, for I think myself one of\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ the best of them, and I know how bad I am. - / \ +81(90)2877-8845 \ - Samuel Johnson \ pgpDcx1cj4bwp.pgp Description: PGP signature