Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount

2007-11-27 Thread Daniel Drake

Markus Ullmann wrote:

K, to sum it up then, everything stays like it is atm.


I think that makes sense. Yes, it's unrealistic for us to be able to 
handle all of them, but I think that's a perfectly reasonable situation.


It's common for open source projects to have an excess of feature 
requests; it's a natural imbalance given that there are significantly 
more users than developers in almost all cases.


Daniel
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[gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount

2007-11-26 Thread Markus Ullmann
K, to sum it up then, everything stays like it is atm.

Thanks for your comments :)

Greetz
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount

2007-11-26 Thread George Shapovalov
Monday, 26. November 2007, Markus Ullmann Ви написали:
> Robin H. Johnson schrieb:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:46:12AM +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote:
> > d) In addition to c), keep them open, flagged with sunrise in the status
> >board, so that when a developer does want some package not in the
> >tree, they can search first.
>
> That's done already
So what's the problem? 

The only onse where there is a valid issue, I think, are the ones where 
upstream has gone missing or no longer supports the package. (Even "better 
alternatives" thing is questionable IMHO. There are always people who have a 
different idea of better :)). These can be dealt with by having a dedicated 
force, perhaps comprised of people most annoyed by these bugs ;), who would 
simply scan the bugzilla for maintainer-wanted bugs, check the upstream and, 
if it is dead, close the bug with INVALID and a note of a dead upstream..

>
> > e) Encourage existing developers to review and commit this stuff more
> >often.
>
> That would be the best option
Except the issue with all these packages is not committing but maintaining 
them. Sure, we could go on a committing spree and never touch any of these 
packages again. We even had such a situation at one point (rather long time 
ago) and it is specifically discouraged now.
The "really best" option would be recruiting new devs so that we have enogh 
people to maintain everything and add more, as was already suggested. This in 
fact does happen, it is just that the rate of new joins cannot be infinite 
plus we seem to experience our growing pains periodically..

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[gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount

2007-11-26 Thread Markus Ullmann
Robin H. Johnson schrieb:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:46:12AM +0100, Markus Ullmann wrote:
> d) In addition to c), keep them open, flagged with sunrise in the status
>board, so that when a developer does want some package not in the
>tree, they can search first.

That's done already

> e) Encourage existing developers to review and commit this stuff more
>often.
That would be the best option

> I really would not want to see them closed unless there is a good reason
> for them to not be committed to the tree.

See the reason's I've given here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/179

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[gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted bugcount

2007-11-26 Thread Ryan Hill
Robin H. Johnson wrote:

> d) In addition to c), keep them open, flagged with sunrise in the status
>board, so that when a developer does want some package not in the
>tree, they can search first.
> e) Encourage existing developers to review and commit this stuff more
>often.
> 
> I really would not want to see them closed unless there is a good reason
> for them to not be committed to the tree.

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