Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Rob C
On 19/03/07, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a > > ~/.config/ is that it's a directory that can obviously be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeff Rollin napsal(a): >> > On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: >> >> > Also, if you have a .co

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a > > ~/.config/ is that it's a directory that can obviously be added to > > backups or sync programs for keeping $HOME the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/03/19, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ [...] Other nice things about it come from it not being an hardcoded path, but just a default for $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. For instance, when testing a new version of an application, you can "XDG_CONFI

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 03:38 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > what is the problem as you see it ? the nice thing about having a ~/.config/ > is that it's a directory that can obviously be added to backups or sync > programs for keeping $HOME the same across multiple machines ... you dont > have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 18 March 2007, Simon Stelling wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: > > Many applications save preferences in ~/./. When testing > > applications please make sure you test with an empty directory to catch > > cases when an upgrade works fine but a clean install doesn't. Thanks. > > Even better: Fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Josh Saddler wrote: > I prefer per app configs right in my homedir, not in ~/.config/ -- this isnt really a point that will ever be "solved" ... you'll always have people who prefer the classical *nix approach over anything else -mike pgptP04nsuaBx.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 March 2007, Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: > Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because > one issues a "ls [-l]" more often than a "ls -a[l]". > Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere > else, not really solving it. what is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Pierre-Yves Rofes wrote: > Well, I'd tend to say that it's not noticeable even under $(HOME) because > one issues a "ls [-l]" more often than a "ls -a[l]". > Besides, moving all into ~/.config is just moving the problem somewhere > else, not really solving it. Agreed. It's just moving the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Pierre-Yves Rofes
On Sun, March 18, 2007 10:53 pm, Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:46:40 + > "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config >> directory... > > Generally speaking one lists the contents of one's home directory more often t

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jakub Moc
Jeff Rollin napsal(a): > On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It wouldn't become any more or less cluttered than ~/ now... > Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config directory... I guess you are missing the point? Fire up Midnight Commander and watch the cruft i

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:46:40 + "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is why I was saying there was no point in a ~/.config > directory... Generally speaking one lists the contents of one's home directory more often than one lists ~/.config. It moves the clutter to a place where it'

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeff Rollin napsal(a): > On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: >> > Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ >> > becomes less cluttered but ~/

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jakub Moc
Jeff Rollin napsal(a): > On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: >> > Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ >> > becomes less cluttered but ~/.config becomes VERY cluttered! >> Nothing prevents

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: > Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ > becomes less cluttered but ~/.config becomes VERY cluttered! Nothing prevents from making appdirs in .config too.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: > Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ > becomes less cluttered but ~/.config becomes VERY cluttered! Nothing prevents from making appdirs in .config too. -- Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszyński -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/03/18, Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even better: Fix them to use ~/.config/ instead You mean "${XDG_CONFIG_HOME:-${HOME}/.config}/", right? http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s03.html -- TGL. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Nirbheek Chauhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Won't that break configs/increase clutter for people who share their home directories between two distributions since they'll have to restort to symlinks to make stuff work? I myself have gentoo and ubuntu installed and am sharing my ho

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Krzysiek Pawlik kirjoitti: > Simon Stelling wrote: >> Even better: Fix them to use ~/.config/ instead, so they don't >> clutter up the home unnecessarily :) > > Won't it change how the vanilla upstream version and the one from portage > behave? IMHO such changes are not a good idea. > Just send

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hi, Won't that break configs/increase clutter for people who share their home directories between two distributions since they'll have to restort to symlinks to make stuff work? I myself have gentoo and ubuntu installed and am sharing my home directory between them. I have to use ubuntu for mainta

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Simon Stelling wrote: > Even better: Fix them to use ~/.config/ instead, so they don't > clutter up the home unnecessarily :) Won't it change how the vanilla upstream version and the one from portage behave? IMHO such changes are not a good idea. -- Krzysiek Pawlik key id: 0xBC51 deskto

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Simon Stelling
Petteri Räty wrote: Many applications save preferences in ~/./. When testing applications please make sure you test with an empty directory to catch cases when an upgrade works fine but a clean install doesn't. Thanks. Even better: Fix them to use ~/.config/ instead, so they don't clutter up t

[gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Many applications save preferences in ~/./. When testing applications please make sure you test with an empty directory to catch cases when an upgrade works fine but a clean install doesn't. Thanks. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature