Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-07-01 Thread Rémi Cardona

Gilles Dartiguelongue a écrit :

Le lundi 30 juin 2008 à 13:33 -0700, Donnie Berkholz a écrit :

On 22:04 Mon 30 Jun , Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:

PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
The standard user privileges don't allow assignment of bugs, only CC (at 
least last time I checked).


well either it changed or I ate something that makes me see funny things
for some months :p They can't reassign existing bugs though.


Most problems Gilles and the rest of us have seen are due to people 
selecting the Gnome component which defaults to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I'm really tempted to ask for the removal of the default email address 
for that component as it's causing a lot of errors.


But this is moot if Robin's plan for automatic assignment goes forward 
(which I sincerely hope it does!)


Cheers

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[gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Jeroen Roovers
To anyone (else) out there who thinks that bug wranglers should be
punished when they make mistakes in the heap of unthankful work they
perform on a more than daily basis, I would like you to know that if
you reassign bugs (back) to bug-wranglers@ without properly
communicating the reason you are doing so, I have no option but to
close the bug as CANTFIX. The reasoning is that bug-wranglers is a
waystation (or perhaps a reception desk) between users and developers -
we cannot begin to fix your bugs for you.


Kind regards,
 JeR
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To anyone (else) out there who thinks that bug wranglers should be
 punished when they make mistakes in the heap of unthankful work they
 perform on a more than daily basis, I would like you to know that if
 you reassign bugs (back) to bug-wranglers@ without properly
 communicating the reason you are doing so, I have no option but to
 close the bug as CANTFIX. The reasoning is that bug-wranglers is a
 waystation (or perhaps a reception desk) between users and developers -
 we cannot begin to fix your bugs for you.

Sounds reasonable to me. Can't be too hard to do Assigning back to
b-w's because I don't maintain this package or similar.

On a side note: How is the b-w SOP doc coming? It is obvious to me
the b-w is tedious a time consuming so I would like to help every now
and then but I really am not sure about the rules wrt assignment just
by looking at metadata.xml. IMO, b-w'ing is something that anyone can
do.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Mark Loeser
Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On a side note: How is the b-w SOP doc coming? It is obvious to me
 the b-w is tedious a time consuming so I would like to help every now
 and then but I really am not sure about the rules wrt assignment just
 by looking at metadata.xml. IMO, b-w'ing is something that anyone can
 do.

I'm hoping to work on it later this week.  I have been getting
absolutely buried with projects at work recently, which has eaten up a
lot of my spare time.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Michael Hammer
* Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080630 19:53]:
 [...] IMO, b-w'ing is something that anyone can do.

s/can/should ? I mean bug wrangling is a very important thing
especially in the sight of users. I'm really willing to help on
b-w'ing if it makes sense and is possible.

g, mueli

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Monday 30 June 2008, Michael Hammer wrote:
 * Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080630 19:53]:
  [...] IMO, b-w'ing is something that anyone can do.

 s/can/should ? I mean bug wrangling is a very important thing
 especially in the sight of users. I'm really willing to help on
 b-w'ing if it makes sense and is possible.

It always makes sense, especially when both carlo and jer are away. The 
back log can become long at times. Your best friend is a couple of 
bugs.gentoo.org tabs open (for searching) and an IRC client with a chat 
window with jeeves or wilikins on freenode.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Robert Bridge
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:52:02 -0500
Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On a side note: How is the b-w SOP doc coming? It is obvious to me
 the b-w is tedious a time consuming so I would like to help every now
 and then but I really am not sure about the rules wrt assignment just
 by looking at metadata.xml. IMO, b-w'ing is something that anyone can
 do.

I would be happy to give it a try if there is an SOP doc to follow. I
may not be a dev, and I'm certainly not massively skilled technically,
but if I can bw a few bugs, it's a few less for the good bw. :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Come on guys, bug wrangling isn't that difficult just read metadata.xml,
if it's not correct, it's not your fault, if it's you misread it, I dare
to except devs won't get angry at it and just reassign to whoever they
see fit with a proper message.

If you're so afraid to make errors, just reassign the package you know
the best. If everyone did a little part... ok I'm dreaming a bit :)

PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:04 Mon 30 Jun , Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
 PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
 is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
 assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.

The standard user privileges don't allow assignment of bugs, only CC (at 
least last time I checked).

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:04:31PM +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
 PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
 is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
 assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
The same goes for developers doing their own assignment. I missed a few
bugs on dev-utils/git because they got assigned to only ferdy, and I
wasn't on the CC list at all.

I'm going to do a followup email to the past threads on auto-assignment
later this afternoon.

The last content post on it was:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49601
and I didn't integrate bangert's questions yet.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 30 juin 2008 à 13:33 -0700, Donnie Berkholz a écrit :
 On 22:04 Mon 30 Jun , Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
  PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
  is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
  assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
 
 The standard user privileges don't allow assignment of bugs, only CC (at 
 least last time I checked).

well either it changed or I ate something that makes me see funny things
for some months :p They can't reassign existing bugs though.

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