Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, William Hubbs wrote: > I just noticed in PMS that HOMEPAGE is an optional variable, so we > really don't need a default home page at all. It seems completely > legit for an ebuild to not even define the HOMEPAGE variable. That's one of the places where our policy is stricter than PMS. The devmanual says clearly that HOMEPAGE is mandatory, except for virtuals. Ulrich pgp5s8t5VfZ8Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 06:20:12PM -0500, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen > wrote: > > > On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ? > > It is not very informative. > > > The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata > that just says "there's no metadata"? I'm just picking a random message to respond to. I just noticed in PMS that HOMEPAGE is an optional variable, so we really don't need a default home page at all. It seems completely legit for an ebuild to not even define the HOMEPAGE variable. William signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/22/2014 01:20 AM, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen > mailto:berna...@gentoo.org>> wrote: > > On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ? > It is not very informative. > > The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of > metadata that just says "there's no metadata"? Users expect a url, not something like () . none or anything else. The url gives information, that the website is not available anymore - as it is part of the url itself: "No_homepage". The wikipage gives hints where to find further information about the package. Cheers, Manuel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTzafuXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4MDA1RERERkM0ODM2QkE4MEY3NzY0N0M1 OEZCQTM2QzhEOUQ2MzVDAAoJEFj7o2yNnWNceDUP/3BbUqqJz8uUXV35D9IDCFSZ /Ei3SxEy6/wCojyE9e/2hmuSo6fsdujNRB9VCGIHWoz8WfhZJSQktuXgXzyP8zbD M6CBWcnx2xWpqYZBECoh6+jdltySWVu5YWZXX6gShlID9dhfLt9hRzBeL9YNGQ7J deI8pDnbWP2LY+9CUPydXyQCr2N6hfXAfOhmTyQlfsr2JoA7AVFDTL0w+q5U4v/X ss92kpi+joCHeJKRLsyVQk8HQMTKUZ6bgbXXvt/eb9ppuc+U4uVpmejiflMnq2vL vfuH+KHNNrnj450UYgtaXnIn8Ot2VxC6X8+GR/PsDL7xqn6kcQgFk7mtgx/IZImq EhyjCpNc/DEfqSmGA7fe0feOlTCTsDymocS+2TAN+ZkLV/WdJzbmMzuK6gkdntOe MNRo05do2B2serYrOCFKm6ql7CrI0+68Dsnpd8P4tONugzL6g4Wg2uK3D3zrutD5 blS3m4rtS5VVMwhuNefFockJxkTVtR+q3Gc3ES9kYaTdA7TL5EYF/bHWVBdwk9BM b+ZtJUyo2PQXVRxdURRWF4IDQwDoCS1kjeovameLo3QdLMakMQTmGGUPzpqoOKgh 3u8cFg+RelmJzgxKvUfM2H892RLXpvhuSLY1wGicdJeOYpxlEl5wtaR6KlKpv0xS EUnC838zhcRGVSILaIx8 =ZtUb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ? > It is not very informative. > The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata that just says "there's no metadata"?
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 +1. Nice idea Manuel! On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ? It is not very informative. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlPNjtkACgkQRtClrXBQc7UrUwD7BWqcE8r+J8v0VqXR3aIwKqfa 2g+lJZE6qgkP3XoRA8QBALcJVroyLSl10/2g7iiafiAozv4W4cIluBjNOs+VO3d8 =O6Nu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200 Manuel Rüger wrote: > currently there is no default link, when the website of a package > becomes unavailable or never existed at all. What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200 Manuel Rüger wrote: > Please check your packages and update them to this link: > HOMEPAGE="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage"; In the same effort we could give all the Gentoo-specific packages which now have that homepage URI a more specific (proj-/wiki-based, even bugs.g.o-based etc.) URI. > Feel free to add further useful information to the wikipage. I wonder how many might still be reachable through the Internet Archive. Worth a look in all particular cases before setting HOMEPAGE to the default. jer
[gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi everyone, currently there is no default link, when the website of a package becomes unavailable or never existed at all. I've created a wikipage, which can be used instead of filling HOMEPAGE with "www.gentoo.org" or non-valid urls like "none". Please check your packages and update them to this link: HOMEPAGE="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage"; Feel free to add further useful information to the wikipage. Cheers, Manuel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTzT4+XxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4MDA1RERERkM0ODM2QkE4MEY3NzY0N0M1 OEZCQTM2QzhEOUQ2MzVDAAoJEFj7o2yNnWNcIQ4P/2RI964BhJFXrewAGs7lD2gR 7RKWYRS8Psm68E5oR3p+4LNFASlEyZttFxEh++DnVxGAE9Te6A7nygnFQ3T39kEb 7htpADGPqWI4UGGKdck7+6Kgnfmr8SNhBCg4yFdiICxL6UM130/pnXdReH7eT5kQ SqD1ymPQCSwxNZLEAnKeyiBuseKilVxZTzvHMdwHSEdt1+YI6XiuB21TAsMF8PJI n1sWc6bUNaaoGSwQ6nqtSc4zMeTZTFEmNredxP+zr489R4znZeN3nsxqqOchVJ7o FNUilTuLFRjtvh6V+12Dum6dIwE+fOfpsf2lExWam1wpC3I+y70JAFUpoWkYHS7H tycA02byNM775FcAenewIhjVjyd+Fkqo+k6DgWz7O02Tt9oaHWy34y0Kku3ErFAH dcti82gPALGaLuiNUAxVZ0o2SQ3a/+neVr2xg7j4MC6dirxzG0pOCRaStWd7qu05 GSvSHnEd2q2/U9DVyIWj7ArTUtRpAs0o/rvviMM9EICR4eCp2qNF0fXbDPLgvuBM jwxXlGmubAIxcIuJ5hxcyj6BmjgJstIcQPB6fcqwza2SC/6Jjb2htSew1qZWXtqS TITi6jXKZI3o6Bkeow5PI0VdCYRz2fuqlFULee3+WZrsn1DxCtQaRMFbsnC6WOAG nXgo5EyRP4Tz8u63NtyX =Ygfo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
