Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38 round two

2005-06-29 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:27:31AM +0100, Ricardo Loureiro wrote:
> Just a question, will there be a different group for moderators that
> belong to staff and moderators which doesn't belong? I'm asking this
> because users may relate different groups meaning official gentoo
> replies from gentoo staff and not official from other moderators,
> giving the idea of valid technical support from the gentoo staff
> moderators.

There is no such thing as an official Gentoo reply. You can have replies
from Gentoo developers, but no Gentoo reply.

Wkr,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38 round two

2005-06-29 Thread Haas Wernfried
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:27:31AM +0100, Ricardo Loureiro wrote:
> Just a question, will there be a different group for moderators that
> belong to staff and moderators which doesn't belong? 
I think this is not planned at the moment.

> I'm asking this
> because users may relate different groups meaning official gentoo
> replies from gentoo staff and not official from other moderators,
> giving the idea of valid technical support from the gentoo staff
> moderators.

Right, a global moderator or admin would give an "official" answer
while non-staff local moderator wouldn't. However, those moderators
are still kind-of-official like the AT as discussed earlier.

Mainly i think the issue of moderators giving official support 
is not that important as a moderator's primary duty is to keep the 
forums running, take care of misplaced posts etc. 
If i don't reply to a post with something different than "Moved from..."
or "Please don't do..." (which represents an official act), i usually 
answer questions about topics i have knowledge on. I sometimes also
answer to threads just asking some generic questions ("what's your
setup in detail", etc) to make it more likely to get support for this
user by some other poster because i don't have the slightest clue
about the software problem and/or architecture. Sometimes i find a bug
report on b.g.o and point the user to it.
Imo, these are posts that could be made by any other experienced user -
irrelevant if he's moderator, developer or user. Developers also
sometimes answer threads that are outside their work area, i'm not
sure how official this support is regarded.

Hope this clears things up and everyone is fine with that.

cheers,
Wernfried

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38 round two

2005-06-28 Thread Ricardo Loureiro
Hi all,

Just a question, will there be a different group for moderators that
belong to staff and moderators which doesn't belong? I'm asking this
because users may relate different groups meaning official gentoo
replies from gentoo staff and not official from other moderators,
giving the idea of valid technical support from the gentoo staff
moderators.

Ricardo Loureiro

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:45:40 +0100
Tom Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After the discussion today about the forums GLEP [1], we've made
> some changes:
> 
> All the current global moderators and admins who aren't already
> developers/staff will take the staff quiz.
> 
> Old moderators (those with Bodhisattva status) will be considered in
> the same way that retired devs are and will have to take the staff
> quiz if they return to moderation duties.
> 
> Moderators of international forums can optionally take the staff
> quiz if they want to.
> 
> Please reload and re-read the updated GLEP.
> 
> Comments/suggestions welcome.
> 
> tomk
> 
>  [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.html
> 
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[gentoo-dev] GLEP 38 round two

2005-06-28 Thread Tom Knight
Hi,

After the discussion today about the forums GLEP [1], we've made some
changes:

All the current global moderators and admins who aren't already
developers/staff will take the staff quiz.

Old moderators (those with Bodhisattva status) will be considered in the
same way that retired devs are and will have to take the staff quiz if they
return to moderation duties.

Moderators of international forums can optionally take the staff quiz if
they want to.

Please reload and re-read the updated GLEP.

Comments/suggestions welcome.

tomk

 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0038.html

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