[gentoo-dev] Gentoo devmanual translations

2008-11-07 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
Hi.

I'm iterested in devmanual status. And I'd like to spend some time in making
it's translation to Russian as well as adding/fixing bugs on english text.

I don't wanna to improve my xslt skills, so is there any simple way to add
translations to existing xml's?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 25 May 2006 14:37:57 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| That said, I would certainly agree that a long list of authors, with
| one author per line, down the center of the page would, indeed, not
| look so good.  A simple set of names (with links to the contributors
| page which provides additional detail, perhaps) would suffice, I'd
| think:

| Seem reasonable?

That sounds good to me. It'd certainly be more in line with the level
of credit (you know, that thing that's used in place of paying people
or plying them with copious amounts of booze) that was originally given
to contributors.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: [Wed May 24 2006, 04:37:44PM CDT]
> Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > How was the conversion done?  Do we now have a tool to convert rst to
> > guidexml, or was the conversion all done by hand (which would be a truly
> > frightening thought), or something else entirely?
> 
> Be prepared to be frightened then, because it was all done by hand :)

I'm certainly not complaining; I'm quite grateful that this document is
being maintained!  I am curious, though.  I thought that neysx had made
all of the desired modifications to guide-xml so that the dev guide
could be translated to standard guide-xml.  Is something still missing?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote: [Thu May 25 2006, 12:39:56PM CDT]
> I changed "Authors" to be "Editors".  I hope that will kill some of the
> controversy.

Thanks.  That should certainly satisfy the license, and I, at least,
appreciate it.

> Ciaran, we recognized you on the front page and appreciate everything
> you did.  We cut the author list from the front page because it was
> getting incredibly long and we didn't feel it should take up that much
> room.  The only reason Tim and myself are listed there is because we are
> the ones maintaining it now, and want people to be able to easily find
> who they should contact about changes.

For what it's worth, I never suspected otherwise.  (Nor, I suspect, did
ciaranm, although I haven't asked him.)  Despite the lack of any
intentional malice, however, I do happen to believe that removing the
author list from the front page is a serious error that is worth fixing.
Giving people appropriate credit for writing documentation is just the
right thing to do, and that credit shouldn't be buried somewhere.
Indeed, my recollection was that a fair amount of thought went into
where the author list should go when drobbins created our documentation
XSL.

That said, I would certainly agree that a long list of authors, with one
author per line, down the center of the page would, indeed, not look so
good.  A simple set of names (with links to the contributors page which
provides additional detail, perhaps) would suffice, I'd think:

Authors
---

  Ciaran McCreesh, Grant Goodyear, Aaron Walker, Robert Coie, Tom
  Martin, Paul Varner, Ilya Volynets-Evenbakh, Diego Patteno Fernando J.
  Pareda, Simon Stelling, Alin Dobre, and Joseph Jezak

Seem reasonable?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Loeser
Petre Rodan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> but whatever browser I use, the 'Authors' section from the main page is not
> rendered correctly (I only see 'editors' not 'authors'). can you fix that 
> please?
> 
> author:
>   1 a : one that originates or creates : SOURCE 
>b capitalized : GOD 1
>   2 : the writer of a literary work (as a book)
>
> kthxbye,
> peter

kaiowas, next time, you don't have to be an ass.  If you think we should change
something, just ask politely.  It really isn't that difficult.

I changed "Authors" to be "Editors".  I hope that will kill some of the
controversy.

Ciaran, we recognized you on the front page and appreciate everything
you did.  We cut the author list from the front page because it was
getting incredibly long and we didn't feel it should take up that much
room.  The only reason Tim and myself are listed there is because we are
the ones maintaining it now, and want people to be able to easily find
who they should contact about changes.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Loeser
Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Nice job. Are the XML and XSLT sources available from our CVS? I wasn't
> able to find them.

Not yet.  The "Contributing" page shows where it is currently hosted,
and I'm going to have it moved over to Gentoo infra soon.  I just
haven't gotten around to it yet :)

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Jan Kundrát
Mark Loeser wrote:
> At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
> http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping
> me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in
> the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

Nice job. Are the XML and XSLT sources available from our CVS? I wasn't
able to find them.

Cheers,
-jkt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Petre Rodan

Hi,

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 04:48:00PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote:
> At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
> http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping
> me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in
> the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

this is cool. thanks for the effort.

but whatever browser I use, the 'Authors' section from the main page is not 
rendered correctly (I only see 'editors' not 'authors'). can you fix that 
please?

author:
1 a : one that originates or creates : SOURCE   b capitalized : GOD 1
2 : the writer of a literary work (as a book)

kthxbye,
peter


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:48:00 -0400 Mark Loeser
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
> | http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  [...]
>
> [...]
>
> Your treatment of the Authors list that used to be on the main
> page is at best highly dubious...

Indeed, that amazed me too: that it is seemingly written by Tim and 
Mark.  Really, Ciaran's name should come first there.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> How was the conversion done?  Do we now have a tool to convert rst to
> guidexml, or was the conversion all done by hand (which would be a truly
> frightening thought), or something else entirely?

Be prepared to be frightened then, because it was all done by hand :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Mark Loeser wrote:
> At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
> http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping
> me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in
> the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

How was the conversion done?  Do we now have a tool to convert rst to
guidexml, or was the conversion all done by hand (which would be a truly
frightening thought), or something else entirely?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:48:00 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
| http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for
| helping me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL
| work to add in the features we needed to make it easy to write and
| expand upon).

You are entirely welcome. You should probably read section 4c of the
licence, however, particularly the part saying:

"at a minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable
authorship credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as such
other comparable authorship credit."

Your treatment of the Authors list that used to be on the main page is
at best highly dubious...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Loeser wrote:
> At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
> http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping
> me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in
> the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

Big thanks to Ciaran for organizing the original effort and writing much
of the material, Tim for continuing to maintain it, as well as all the
other contributors!

Thanks,
Donnie



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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Loeser
At long last the devmanual is official.  You can find it at
http://devmanual.gentoo.org.  I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping
me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in
the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

If anyone finds any errors in the manual, would like to add new content,
or if you have suggestions on how to make the manual better, please
email plasmaroo and myself.  We are happy to entertain suggestions.  I plan
on keeping the devmanual as up to date as possible, and making it easy for
people to find what should be considered "policies" that are outlined in the
document.  We will be working on that in the next week or two.

Thanks,

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