Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:52 Mon 08 Jul , Pavlos Ratis wrote: As far as I can see, opinions about VCs are 50-50. However, I don't see any disadvantages adding video hangouts to the project. VCs _are not_ mandatory and doesn't replace any of our current communication methods. You are not forced to participate.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-08 Thread Pavlos Ratis
As far as I can see, opinions about VCs are 50-50. However, I don't see any disadvantages adding video hangouts to the project. VCs _are not_ mandatory and doesn't replace any of our current communication methods. You are not forced to participate. It's all about choice. If there are no objections

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-05 Thread Raymond Jennings
Not to mention how do you actually log a hangout for the record instead of already having logs from an irc session or mailing list. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-07-04 Thread Peter Stuge
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish feeling ..as opposed to the very professional mailing list. //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-26 Thread Egg Plant
- Original Message - From: Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org On 26/06/2013 01:09, Egg Plant wrote: According to Pavlos Ratis proposal, it will be another channel of communication. I am not protesting to setup an unofficial channel there. I am fearing that it will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-25 Thread Egg Plant
- Original Message - From: Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote:   That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will   be Google+  video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers   independent of a team. The main

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-25 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2013.06.23 22:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: Hello all, Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but this is only a text-based communication. I think sometimes it would be better to escape from that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-25 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/25/2013 07:57 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: On 2013.06.23 22:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: Hello all, Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but this is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I realise that by Gentoo is and will remain Free Software[0], what is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it would be a bad example to use proprietary software for development or communication. [0]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR department would come up with, which noone does actually like doing and everyone is glad when it's over and can go back to work. I honestly wonder

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Legler
On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: I realise that by Gentoo is and will remain Free Software[0], what is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it would be a bad example to use proprietary software for development or communication. So we shouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Legler schrieb: On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: I realise that by Gentoo is and will remain Free Software[0], what is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it would be a bad example to use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Legler
On 24.06.2013 12:01, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Alex Legler schrieb: On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: I realise that by Gentoo is and will remain Free Software[0], what is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it would be a bad example to use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Pavlos Ratis
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR department would come up with, which noone does actually like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Pavlos, I understand what you mean, I'm just saying that organizing a real video conference takes its toil. And just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish feeling that could be more detrimental than not. Can you please tell us if you have _any_ experience at all with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: And unlike IRC meetings, you can cannot multitask, say making your dinner while discussing this or that feature. Honestly, that bit is a two-edged sword. I was just musing with the Trustees yesterday how it seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 09:14:44AM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: A VC is a full commitment, and its attractiveness is often much higher _before_ you use it.. Agreed. I have found that if I am on a voice chat with someone, say on skype, it requires my full attention, especially since I use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: I've worked on a VC system most of last year and I now go through regular conferences... it's barely okay from a work point of view, it takes lots of time to organize so you don't want to do that every single day for sure. It depends how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.orgwrote: It depends how you run it. We have teams having a video thing open during the day with there geographically-diverse other team members and it works well for them. For those teams, it also improves cohesion.

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Pavlos Ratis
Hello all, Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but this is only a text-based communication. I think sometimes it would be better to escape from that. That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. I have a personal dislike for video tutorials which tend to take half an hour to explain something you'd read in ten minutes. Besides, not all of the developers speak English well enough — heck some people have trouble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Pavlos Ratis daster...@gentoo.org wrote: Except from a camera and a microphone requirement is a Google account and www-client/google-talkplugin package which is already in the tree. Or a modern smartphone with the relevant app. Personally, I have neither a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Pavlos Ratis
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. It is absolutely optional and it's just a proposal. However, I think it's worth a try. Pavlos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Pavlos Ratis wrote: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. It is absolutely optional and it's just a proposal. However, I think it's worth a try. I think it would be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-23 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 24.06.2013 00:15, schrieb Mike Gilbert: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Pavlos Ratis daster...@gentoo.org wrote: It would be great to have teams introduce themselves and inform users in a more interactive way how to contribute and answer their questions. Finally as I said different other