Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-05 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/04/2010 02:09 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: All ideas regarding improving recruitment are welcome, thanks. However if, during your review, you were not given the impression that your maturity and other social skills were being assessed then you were being blissfully naive. :o) That

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-05 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: What I was getting at is trying to identify what aspects of the whole recruitment process added the most value and which added the least, and adjusting accordingly.  I think that assessing attitude and maturity, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess maturity.  I think that maturity is far more important than technical skill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-04 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
esOn Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 07:33:53AM -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: On 04/03/2010 06:19 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev and to help somebody

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/03/10 11:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Hell no, but ... We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way. Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead. So what are _you_ doing to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-03 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Patrick Lauer: We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way. Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead. So what are _you_ doing to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-03 Thread Richard Freeman
On 04/03/2010 06:19 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote: And still, when someone tries to fix things in such an understaffed herd people go all territorial and are like omg u touched my package. Right now I'm quite confused what our project strategy seems to be, as far as I can tell there's one group

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-03 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/03/2010 02:33 PM, Richard Freeman wrote: I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess maturity. I think that maturity is far more important than technical skill in a distro - a mature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo a Phoenix?

2010-04-03 Thread Magnus Granberg
lördag 03 april 2010 12.19.19 skrev Tobias Scherbaum: - hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist. Yeah, we do have people working on