Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-09-15 Thread Stuart Herbert

On 9/14/06, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Caleb,
>
>
> question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the
> portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
>

I favor this the same way I favor pear and pecl to handle those
extensions. But to each his own I guess... Aaron and I will have our own.


It makes sense to put gems into Portage if they are deps for other
packages, or (in the case of something like mongrel) if they're an
important package in of themselves.

If we had the man-power (which we don't), I'd favour having ebuilds
for as many gems as possible.  When you're managing servers, it's very
nice to be able to audit your server against what the package manager
says should be there :)

Best regards,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-09-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 15 September 2006 00:28, Nick Devito wrote:
> Here's a (probably bad) idea, but, how about we do something like the
> way g-cpan does things. It's just an idea, and, I really don't have a
> clue as to how g-cpan actually works. *shrugs*
Actually, g-gem for gem-based packages is already being worked on by pclouds 
and Aggelos Orfanakos.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-09-14 Thread Doug Goldstein
Aaron Kulbe wrote:
> On 8/22/06, *Caleb Tennis* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the
> *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on
> general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent
> out a
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good
> leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
> mentor anyone either.
> 
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would
> certainly be
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add
> yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
> 
> 
> Caleb,
> 
> 
> question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the
> portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
> 

I favor this the same way I favor pear and pecl to handle those
extensions. But to each his own I guess... Aaron and I will have our own.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-09-14 Thread Nick Devito
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 13:39 -0700, Aaron Kulbe wrote:
> On 8/22/06, Caleb Tennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am
> the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to
> work on general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some
> help.  I've sent out a 
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of
> good leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time
> right now to
> mentor anyone either.
> 
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would
> certainly be 
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just
> add yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're
> joining us.
> 
> 
> Caleb,
> 
> I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to
> get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a
> total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild. 
> 
> question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we
> put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in
> the portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Aaron Kulbe
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's a (probably bad) idea, but, how about we do something like the
way g-cpan does things. It's just an idea, and, I really don't have a
clue as to how g-cpan actually works. *shrugs*
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Mike Bonar

Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,

Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general


Thanks,
Caleb

  

I was looking for an excuse to learn Ruby.  I'll help all I can.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Doug Goldstein
Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
> mentor anyone either.
> 
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
> 
> Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
> to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
> devs.  Mail me for that information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Caleb
> 

Caleb,

I run KDE at work and I search through bugs sometimes when I'm there. I
can try to wrangle some bugs for you guys and fix them. I can't promise
to be too active though. But I'd gladly help out.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Kulbe
On 8/22/06, Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one today, that has this problem. :)Cheers,Aaron Kulbe
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis

Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/

Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?


Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,


[...]


Thanks,
Caleb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?


Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,


[...]


Thanks,
Caleb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Kulbe
I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.
Okay. I have to apologize gentlemen.  I will take my lumps.  I said this out of frustration.  There, it's out.  Someone had been trying to help me with this, and he's on vacation... and other's know about it but haven't done anything.  It seems like a simple procedure to put keys on a server, but it's taking forever to get it done.  That being said, I have 
NO desire to start yet another argument on the lists.I apologize.  Now I'm going to go and bury my head in the sand somewhere.


Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Kulbe
On 8/22/06, Caleb Tennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on generalmaintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads onpotential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now tomentor anyone either.If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourselfto the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.Caleb,I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.
question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?Cheers,
Aaron Kulbe[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

2006-08-22 Thread Caleb Tennis
Hi all,

Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
mentor anyone either.

If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.

Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
devs.  Mail me for that information.

Thanks,
Caleb

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