Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 18:26:04 Ben de Groot wrote: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Why can't this be on our official overlays? Is there a technical > > reason, because we seem to just be spreading things out even more than > > necessary. > > Because on g.o.g.o. we can not admin it ourselves, resultin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-12 Thread Ben de Groot
Arun Raghavan wrote: > 2009/8/12 Ben de Groot : >> As this is a git overlay, it's not a problem. It would be very easy to >> move the public repo to another location. > > Which still does not address concerns about (admittedly paranoid) > concerns about terms of use and content. Not being paranoi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/12 Ben de Groot : > Arun Raghavan wrote: >> This still does not address the original problem - if >> $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about >> content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, >> (at least) that part of the project which is h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Arun Raghavan wrote: > This still does not address the original problem - if > $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about > content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, > (at least) that part of the project which is hosted on is negatively > affect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Mark Loeser wrote: > Why can't this be on our official overlays? Is there a technical > reason, because we seem to just be spreading things out even more than > necessary. Because on g.o.g.o. we can not admin it ourselves, resulting in delays and adding to infra's burden. Also, the web interface

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Thomas Sachau wrote: > Is there a special reason, why we need to split things even more? Why not > invite those devs and > interested users to sunrise? Training ground for interested users is one of > the main goals of our > project. Sunrise has a very different policy (e.g. no packages already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:26:17PM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: > 2009/8/11 Nirbheek Chauhan : > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavan > > wrote: > >> The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a > >> non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 19:38:48 Arun Raghavan wrote: > This still does not address the original problem - if > $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about > content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, > (at least) that part of the project wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Nirbheek Chauhan : > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavan > wrote: >> The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a >> non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead. > > How much effort do you estimate would need to be invested to have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavan wrote: > The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a > non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead. How much effort do you estimate would need to be invested to have a webinterface (or similar) which lets ov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Markos Chandras : [...] >> The advantage is primarily that we retain control of the >> infrastructure on which it (the official Gentoo project) is hosted. > Sorry but IMHO this is not an argument. By hosting projects/overlays on > gitorious/github we can administer them more quickly witho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 18:07:47 Arun Raghavan wrote: > 2009/8/11 Sebastian Pipping : > > Josh Saddler wrote: > >> I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) > > > > What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays > > hosted on http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/ ? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
2009/8/11 Maciej Mrozowski : > That's probably why there's still no CIA.vc bot tracking kde-testing overlay > on #gentoo-kde Actually, you can totally blame Arun for this. *point* *grin* -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan GNOME Team, Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 17:07:47 Arun Raghavan wrote: > The advantage is primarily that we retain control of the > infrastructure on which it (the official Gentoo project) is hosted. Yes, and this is the problem. That's probably why there's still no CIA.vc bot tracking kde-testing overlay o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Sebastian Pipping : > Josh Saddler wrote: >> I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) > > What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays > hosted on http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/ ? The advantage is primarily that we retain control of the infrastruct

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Josh Saddler wrote: > I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays hosted on http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/ ? Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Federico Ferri wrote: > note that for sound-related packages there exists pro-audio overlay my impression is that pro-audio really focuses on _professional_ audio software. that's two very different sets of applications. i don't see any benefits from mixing them, do you? sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 11:08:34 Robert Buchholz wrote: > > In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on > > git.overlays, there is no signup, password, mail verification > > required. There's scripts to keep the ssh keys in LDAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 11:08:34 Robert Buchholz wrote: > In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on git.overlays, > there is no signup, password, mail verification required. There's > scripts to keep the ssh keys in LDAP and on git.overlays in sync, and > people can just reques

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Josh Saddler wrote: > Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? I'm not going to request access to the overlay, so I respect if media herds want this to be hosted on gitorious. In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on git.overlays, there is no signup,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 03:06:21 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Ben de Groot schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is > > a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, > > to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Josh Saddler wrote: > >> Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? >> >> If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not "official." >> > Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? > > A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits > t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Josh Saddler wrote: Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not "official." Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits them best; they don't have to use ov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: > Hi, > > The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is > a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, > to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live > ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben de Groot wrote: > We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining > ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv, > graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding > edge packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Loeser
Ben de Groot said: > So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at > http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to > join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added. > Administration of the overlay will be shared among the par

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ben de Groot schrieb: > Hi, > > The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is > a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, > to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live > ebuilds and especially as a training ground for ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Good idea! > > Out of curiousity: Is a gitorious account a technical must or would an > SSH pubkey do as well? you need a gitorious account for commit access

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ben de Groot wrote: > So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at > http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to > join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added. Good idea! Out of curiousity: Is a gitorious account a te

[gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new recruits. I thought it would be