Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-21 Thread Caleb Tennis
This is a followup that I am now committing "qt4-build.eclass" with a lot of the
redundant functions for building Qt4 put into it.

The only packages that use/depend on it are currently masked, so feel free to
comment here with things you'd like to see changed in the eclass.

Caleb

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Patrick Ohearn

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 09:37 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote:
> > How about splitting qmake out to help with the WebKitGtk stuff, so we
> > don't have to dep on qt?
> 
> In theory it can be done very easily, because qmake doesn't rely on any Qt
> libraries.  However, it DOES rely on all sorts of .prf and configure time 
> option
> files that are installed to the file system.  But I'm hoping to get a very 
> minimal
> package together that will mitigate the need for a big Qt install for builing
> WebKitGtk, yes.
> 
> Caleb
> 
Cool, thanks for the information :).
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Caleb Tennis
> How about splitting qmake out to help with the WebKitGtk stuff, so we
> don't have to dep on qt?

In theory it can be done very easily, because qmake doesn't rely on any Qt
libraries.  However, it DOES rely on all sorts of .prf and configure time option
files that are installed to the file system.  But I'm hoping to get a very 
minimal
package together that will mitigate the need for a big Qt install for builing
WebKitGtk, yes.

Caleb

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Caleb Tennis
> Great news. Why don't you split everything, though? In qt-4.3.0-r2, I
> see Core, Gui, Network, OpenGL, Sql, Script, Svg, Xml, Designer,
> UiTools, Assistant, 3Support, Test and DBus and can certainly imagine
> that at least putting the Gui out would make sense for console-based Qt
> applications.

I'm definitely considering this.  At the very least I'd like to make a qt-core
package with all of the non-GUI stuff in it, then have a gui package that has
everything else.  It's a work in progress, but I'm hoping we can get it to this 
kind
of thing soon.

Caleb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Patrick Ohearn

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 09:05 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Just a quick update on the happens in the x11-libs/qt world, as I'm 
> introducing some
> changes that will probably affect people in the not-to-distant future.
> 
> Since Qt is starting to get rather, ahem, big, I've decided that with the
> introduction of version 4.4 it's a good time to try and split it down into 
> more
> manageable chunks.  I'm introducing a few new packages that are designed to 
> break
> out some of the major pieces into their own packages.  I present:
> 
> x11-libs/qt
> x11-libs/qt-dbus ( Breaking out into its own package )
> x11-libs/qt-phonon ( New for 4.4, a wrapper around various sound modules )
> x11-libs/qt-qt3support ( Breaking out into its own package )
> x11-libs/qt-webkit ( New for 4.4, Qt's integrated WebKit support )
> 
> There may be some more of these as time goes on and necessity/desire dictate.
> 
> The main motivation behind doing this is to make the package a little more
> manageable, in that it's not one huge monolithic package with a million use 
> flags
> dictating which modules get built.  This should make dependant package 
> maintenance
> nicer, as you can just depend on the necessary packages and not have to 
> resort to
> the built_with_use trickery that we all love so much.
> 
> As well, we gain in the same vein as the split KDE style packages, that 
> updates and
> security fixes don't require a recompilation of all of the non-affected 
> modules.
> 
> There are still lots of goodies that need to be tested.  I'm sure there are
> edge-case USE flag scenarios that may need to be accounted for, performance 
> tweaks
> to be made, and other things I haven't thought of.  If you're into bleeding 
> edge,
> I'd love to have you try out some of these new packages and see if you've got 
> any
> failures or ideas for making them better.
> 
> As usual, this stuff is all package.masked right now pending lots of tweaks 
> and
> changes in the short term.  My guess is that it will hit portage proper by 
> the end
> of 1Q2008.  Hopefully we can have it all happy by then.
> 
> Feel free to file any bug reports you can find or think of.  Patches are 
> especially
> encouraged.
> 
> Thanks,
> Caleb
> 
How about splitting qmake out to help with the WebKitGtk stuff, so we
don't have to dep on qt?

Or can't this be done as easy as the other parts?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Jan Kundrát
Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Since Qt is starting to get rather, ahem, big, I've decided that with the
> introduction of version 4.4 it's a good time to try and split it down into 
> more
> manageable chunks.  I'm introducing a few new packages that are designed to 
> break
> out some of the major pieces into their own packages.  I present:
> 
> x11-libs/qt
> x11-libs/qt-dbus ( Breaking out into its own package )
> x11-libs/qt-phonon ( New for 4.4, a wrapper around various sound modules )
> x11-libs/qt-qt3support ( Breaking out into its own package )
> x11-libs/qt-webkit ( New for 4.4, Qt's integrated WebKit support )

Great news. Why don't you split everything, though? In qt-4.3.0-r2, I
see Core, Gui, Network, OpenGL, Sql, Script, Svg, Xml, Designer,
UiTools, Assistant, 3Support, Test and DBus and can certainly imagine
that at least putting the Gui out would make sense for console-based Qt
applications.

Cheers,
-jkt

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[gentoo-dev] Project Update: qt-4

2007-12-20 Thread Caleb Tennis
Just a quick update on the happens in the x11-libs/qt world, as I'm introducing 
some
changes that will probably affect people in the not-to-distant future.

Since Qt is starting to get rather, ahem, big, I've decided that with the
introduction of version 4.4 it's a good time to try and split it down into more
manageable chunks.  I'm introducing a few new packages that are designed to 
break
out some of the major pieces into their own packages.  I present:

x11-libs/qt
x11-libs/qt-dbus ( Breaking out into its own package )
x11-libs/qt-phonon ( New for 4.4, a wrapper around various sound modules )
x11-libs/qt-qt3support ( Breaking out into its own package )
x11-libs/qt-webkit ( New for 4.4, Qt's integrated WebKit support )

There may be some more of these as time goes on and necessity/desire dictate.

The main motivation behind doing this is to make the package a little more
manageable, in that it's not one huge monolithic package with a million use 
flags
dictating which modules get built.  This should make dependant package 
maintenance
nicer, as you can just depend on the necessary packages and not have to resort 
to
the built_with_use trickery that we all love so much.

As well, we gain in the same vein as the split KDE style packages, that updates 
and
security fixes don't require a recompilation of all of the non-affected modules.

There are still lots of goodies that need to be tested.  I'm sure there are
edge-case USE flag scenarios that may need to be accounted for, performance 
tweaks
to be made, and other things I haven't thought of.  If you're into bleeding 
edge,
I'd love to have you try out some of these new packages and see if you've got 
any
failures or ideas for making them better.

As usual, this stuff is all package.masked right now pending lots of tweaks and
changes in the short term.  My guess is that it will hit portage proper by the 
end
of 1Q2008.  Hopefully we can have it all happy by then.

Feel free to file any bug reports you can find or think of.  Patches are 
especially
encouraged.

Thanks,
Caleb

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