Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-06 Thread Jan Jitse Venselaar
On Sunday 05 June 2005 23:55, Ned Ludd wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:57 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
I'm with Ned fozer on this, in general at least. This is the second time this issue has come up over the last month or so; it's what kicks off the flat-tree debate. My preference in practice is to leave the current tree allocation of packages to categories well alone (to avoid unnecessary

[gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with implementations (Linux-PAM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ian Leitch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think we should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Ned Ludd wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 foser wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote: I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user. To give an example: mzscheme was placed in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:50 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: Solar, I realize you meant this as a general statement of opinion and not a flame-baiter, but can you elaborate on: On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:37, Ned Ludd wrote: Invalidates binary package trees. My (wrong?)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 19:34 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Sunday 05 June 2005 17:37, Ned Ludd wrote: I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. Sorry but I don't agree with that, at least

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:25 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 foser wrote: On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote: I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place within portage, such package placements

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Nathan L. Adams wrote: Then why is their a browsable Categories link on the packages site? http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/ Very good question , .. I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things less confusing for the end-user and developers alike and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 21:21 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Sunday 05 June 2005 21:03, Ned Ludd wrote: 14 files matching the pam prefix and 18 thing matching description. You missed pam_ssh. And that's just an example. By the way... mind telling everyone here how did you do that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ned Ludd wrote: *poof* we now reshuffle, but then we can do auth with ldap. So lets move all the */ldap* related subjects under it sys-auth/... Then a month or six later comes along sys-ldap and it gets moved there. The logic will go full

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nathan L. Adams wrote: Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do you group by what the package is used for (email vs. game vs. web browser) or by what it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 04:22:10PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way I ever seen. Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, pam_smb in net-misc and so on. I think we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Mike Doty
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 17:44 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: [snip] it is a laborious work, but it could be done. too bad we don't use subversion :( I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written. -- === Mike Doty

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Doty wrote: I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written. rename/move is a feature of the svn database, not of the svn interface. also support symlinks, btw. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature