Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight? Don't get confused by all the flames. It's only 10-20 devs out of ~150 who are always fighting - and that's usually only on mailinglists, they work together quite well outside of certain "hot" mailinglist topics (day-to-day tree maintenance). Kind regards, -- Andrej "Ticho" Kacian Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, sound, x86 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 10:18 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 05 October 2006 10:06, Natanael Copa wrote: > > When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as "maintainer update") to > > freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a > > popular port. ... > And I suppose I can say that with quite enough information at hand, > considering that I deal with ports every time a package fails to build on > G/FBSD .. the problem is most of the times I cannot make use of the patches > used by ports because they are, if not broken, sub-optimal. I buy that one. Can I become a Gentoo dev, even if I'm only maintainer of 1-3 packages? I'm trying to be realistic. -- Natanael Copa -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
On Thursday 05 October 2006 10:06, Natanael Copa wrote: > When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as "maintainer update") to > freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a > popular port. When I submit fixes for packages in Gentoo bugzilla it get > stuck for months. They must have done something right. I keep from stating my uncensored opinion about a good part of FreeBSD ports, and just say that their patch policy, as well as the one of pkgsrc that is another comparable system, is totally different from ours, and does not consider upstream presence. And I suppose I can say that with quite enough information at hand, considering that I deal with ports every time a package fails to build on G/FBSD .. the problem is most of the times I cannot make use of the patches used by ports because they are, if not broken, sub-optimal. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Sound, ALSA, PAM, KDE, CJK, Ruby ... pgpk3Y9QUnasW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 09:52 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: > Natanael Copa wrote: > > Nobody has ever showed interest and I'm not pushing my services on > > anyone. > > > Why exactly you don't want to become a Gentoo dev? Because of the byrocracy? Is it worth it to only maintain one single package? Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight? > The whole "proxy maintainer" thing is a bunch of crap. Thanks. Seems to work just fine in freebsd ports. > The Gentoo developer will still be > expected to be responsible of his/her commits, which means 2 maintainers > will spend (approximately) same amount of time testing it. The Gentoo developer would have the final reposability, so yes, he/she might need to test it. But if it doesn't work the Gentoo developer sends an email to the (proxy) maintainer: "It doesn't work. Please fix or I won't commit" or: "The code is too ugly. Please improve or I won't commit". The Gentoo dev can establish a relationship with the maintainer so after a while he/she knows the (proxy) maintainer is trustable and can commit after just a look. This in contrast to dealing with thousands unknown bug reporters. If the (proxy) maintainer doesn't answer, the gentoo dev can either fix it himself/herself or find an new maintainer - which I believe is easier than requiting a new dev, since it does not *feel* like as much responsability, even if it is. Its funny, I use gentoo much more that FreeBSD, I'm a freebsd port maintainer, but nothing for Gentoo (well, im an active bugreporter...) When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as "maintainer update") to freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a popular port. When I submit fixes for packages in Gentoo bugzilla it get stuck for months. They must have done something right. -- Natanael Copa -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
