Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Jakub Moc kirjoitti: > Petteri Räty napsal(a): >> Dan Meltzer kirjoitti: >>> mmm, by this arguement news should be written for every version bump, >>> explaining what has changed in the package that is user visible. It would >>> definatly improve the users experience if they knew what they were

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:26:48 -0700 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > All- > > After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can > make on glep 42. > > 1. Priority levels for news items: If we did this users could de

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Jakub Moc
Petteri Räty napsal(a): > Dan Meltzer kirjoitti: >> mmm, by this arguement news should be written for every version bump, >> explaining what has changed in the package that is user visible. It would >> definatly improve the users experience if they knew what they were upgrading >> to, not just

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Dan Meltzer kirjoitti: > > mmm, by this arguement news should be written for every version bump, > explaining what has changed in the package that is user visible. It would > definatly improve the users experience if they knew what they were upgrading > to, not just that they were upgrading. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Dan Meltzer
On Saturday 05 May 2007 5:34:29 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:26:48 -0700 > > Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can > > make on glep 42. > > Well, if you're going about improving it, start by adding in th

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Richard Freeman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2007 00:25:20 +0200 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> It is critical if your filesystem might be damaged, if there are >> security issues of any kind, or if something stops working. > > It is critical if it requires

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 6 May 2007 00:25:20 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It is critical if your filesystem might be damaged, if there are > security issues of any kind, or if something stops working. It is critical if it requires manual action by many or the majority of targetted users. -- Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread expose
I wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > This thread is not, however, about Paludis. Please keep future moaning > > about Paludis in the appropriate thread. > > Perfectly correct, it is about this news item being critical or not. > I were not the one who started to talk about log levels, which is > of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread expose
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Paludis producing a warning (as opposed to a lower level notice -- > Paludis has different levels for log notices, of which 'warning' is > the highest) is something that is considered critical enough that the > user should fix it before continuing. Were it not critical, a d

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 6 May 2007 00:00:11 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Paludis will still work, after the upgrade, but it will produce > warnings. So there are no problems at all, it still works just fine. Paludis producing a warning (as opposed to a lower level notice -- Paludis has different levels for lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread expose
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > That'll just increase the amount of disagreement about news items > because it'll give people more pointless wording to argue over. After all, something I agree with. > It's quite simple. If releasing a news item improves the user > experience of affected users more than n

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:44:49 -0700 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if you're going about improving it, start by adding in the > > Display-If-Upgrading-From-To: header. It'll be a nuisance to > > implement, but it'll be far more useful than any of the rest of > > this. > > Your word d

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:26:48 -0700 > Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can >> make on glep 42. > > Well, if you're going about improving it, start by add

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:26:48 -0700 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can > make on glep 42. Well, if you're going about improving it, start by adding in the Display-If-Upgrading-From-To: header. It'll be a nuisance to implemen

[gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42

2007-05-05 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All- After some discussion on #-dev there are some improvements that we can make on glep 42. 1. Priority levels for news items: If we did this users could decide what levels of importance to filter out. 2. Standards for news items: Based on the