Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
Kent Fredric schrieb: > On 23 July 2012 08:48, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >> A fair point, suggestion retracted. I'm on board with sys-firmware as >> well, but I do see some advantage of the current way of putting the >> firmware in the category of what it is for... > > If you wanted, you could do something like x11-drivers/ do , and have > a standard of adding a little subcategorization: Could you be more specific? What does x11-drivers/ do that applies here? > sys-firmware/video-ati If it is really desired to state the firmware purpose in category/package, then I would prefer firmware-gpu/radeon-ucode firmware-video/cx18-firmware firmware-audio/alsa-firmware firmware-net/isdn-firmware or similar. This would be better than deviating from upstream package name. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, Kent Fredric wrote: > In short, "Yay, thanks for sys-firmware, I look forward to it not > being an empty category" We could create a category metadata file. ;) Is the following O.K.: "The sys-firmware category contains various firmware and microcode." Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
On 23 July 2012 08:48, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > A fair point, suggestion retracted. I'm on board with sys-firmware as > well, but I do see some advantage of the current way of putting the > firmware in the category of what it is for... If you wanted, you could do something like x11-drivers/ do , and have a standard of adding a little subcategorization: sys-firmware/video-ati Or something of that sort. You'd be having to sacrifice downstream package name not being identical to upstream though. But Lots of the ones I see listed could be generalised like that. See, translate this into the new scheme: media-sound/alsa-firmware media-tv/cx18-firmware media-tv/ivtv-firmware media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-firmware media-video/isight-firmware-tools net-dialup/isdn-firmware net-wireless/acx-firmware net-wireless/ar9271-firmware net-wireless/atmel-firmware net-wireless/b43-firmware net-wireless/bluez-firmware net-wireless/ipw2100-firmware net-wireless/ipw2200-firmware net-wireless/libertas-firmware net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-firmware net-wireless/prism54-firmware net-wireless/rt2860-firmware net-wireless/rt2870-firmware sys-firmware/sound-alsa sys-firmware/tv-cx18 sys-firmware/tv-ivtv sys-firmware/tv-linuxtv-dvb sys-firmware/video-isight-tools sys-firmware/dialup-isdn sys-firmware/wireless-acx sys-firmware/wireless-ar927 ... etc. -- Kent perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );" http://kent-fredric.fox.geek.nz
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
On 22 July 2012 16:12, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I've got a few ROMs to add to the tree and some which are already in > the tree if people have a suggestion where they should live. Short > list: > > ipxe > openbios > seabios > sgabios > vgabios > > -- > Doug Goldstein > I just noticed that the sys-firmware category has been added to the categories file, but no corresponding directory in portage exists yet. I understand this is a temporary thing, and the only thing that notices that there is this discrepancy is software I've written ( https://metacpan.org/source/KENTNL/Gentoo-Overlay-1.0.2/lib/Gentoo/Overlay.pm#L135 ). It doesn't warrant the shenanigans of a full bug report, ( And I have no idea how one would categories this sort of bug ), just I dislike the inconsistency of there being a directory listed in the categories file without also having that directory in existence. ( This bug is really all CVS's fault, the directory is created, but its empty -> marked as dead ) In short, "Yay, thanks for sys-firmware, I look forward to it not being an empty category" Just I would have hoped that this category hadn't been created until there was something ready to put in it =) -- Kent perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
Il 22/07/2012 07:22, Maxim Kammerer ha scritto: > just pointing out that there is not much information gained in the > package name, Trust me it usually helps more than a little bit to have a common category for them. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2012 01:22 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: >> sys-bios? > > Whatever you (Gentoo developers) do, do not use bios for the > category -- well not for anything really. > > BIOS is merely one specific type of (shitty beyond belief) firmware > on one specific type of (shitty beyond belief) hardware. (Well, I've > seen the odd non-PC-platform use the term too. TI DSPs come to mind.) > > Don't make the mistake of assuming that BIOS is synonym to firmware > even if it may be the only firmware you've encountered so far. A fair point, suggestion retracted. I'm on board with sys-firmware as well, but I do see some advantage of the current way of putting the firmware in the category of what it is for... - -Zero > > > Thank you > > //Peter > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQDGcMAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKYYcP/jbo4Nr+6vfAtimVQoKZx8oP /XPoy6gWjyxoMx7OMPMHsXeFEeDUk0JEcJT5fL7KXl/Aggk3emlkzjP0FeQyM5qI Tjy4dfpNmqFdCHUqOqVJduIW2IxTXlolQ5amW3+TLNHiE23t9ar0VqjnrxngGBPR 0b0kDHKVGEWfiCDazyzLn5Lr3u2zlCM1LwVU1dPTRWDOMWpL1kbmoiZicQUooahn HGh6+gW60850pPrZSfyNp/u4uVi53AtQI0l2q/afBosfK0lTDEKpdZifNtAPE5Ry FtY4d/v4WFWQ61iBg7McinveCgtGyTvCyvJGVlTNWrIyEBgoOyFYcZAXaLGMXJLe eDbc0iwRbNkxmuj6E578MbNGQzzkPAM4k59Ab2RSms5d6KuCAtCxL7Wg+/+C1opP /5uLv+niqkglCZHKLyIeZNLuDFWS/PPTKeCaBEKUZVWV/FJR7sud48VnqNPp3lr8 gYSFL/R+FPsjyaXPRsIw6m0A6oH/pYFukEfSt+xIG6oRe8PSioyPguTXh4cu/zqE RbfPjEZ0I+WGynKKaMO9yK7eYWArXp/r+hDwBgrKrEJoDzVKdqmAEqsPqL+fXa+O THM3G1uA1+OvImKEKMRbaRTIREMc2GDN8O4GMZKyfKWjFGM5cDLISmBuWP0aSRYg F6PN9s2IKKfkZkRFUcTj =tirC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: > sys-bios? Whatever you (Gentoo developers) do, do not use bios for the category -- well not for anything really. BIOS is merely one specific type of (shitty beyond belief) firmware on one specific type of (shitty beyond belief) hardware. (Well, I've seen the odd non-PC-platform use the term too. TI DSPs come to mind.) Don't make the mistake of assuming that BIOS is synonym to firmware even if it may be the only firmware you've encountered so far. Thank you //Peter
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On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > The problem is not finding them, is knowing what's going on when a given > package name is merged. Well, what I meant is that all these packages have a "-ucode" or "-firmware" suffix (not sure whether there is a difference), and there is also microcode-data, which stands separately (as you probably remember from bug #403119). I am not against a sys-firmware category, just pointing out that there is not much information gained in the package name, whereas some information will be lost (type of firmware — wireless, graphics, etc.). -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:47:27 +0300 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: > > And for those who wonder if it's worth it: it is, for people like > > me who tries to run all over the tree, as then I know what to > > expect out of sys-firmware failures... > > eix -cI 'microcode-|-ucode|-firmware' Are we fedora or something? -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Il 22/07/2012 06:47, Maxim Kammerer ha scritto: > eix -cI 'microcode-|-ucode|-firmware' The problem is not finding them, is knowing what's going on when a given package name is merged. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > And for those who wonder if it's worth it: it is, for people like me who > tries to run all over the tree, as then I know what to expect out of > sys-firmware failures... eix -cI 'microcode-|-ucode|-firmware' -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
Il 22/07/2012 06:28, Ulrich Mueller ha scritto: > These packages are currently scattered all over the tree: sys-apps, > sys-kernel, media-tv, net-wireless, and x11-drivers (maybe more). And for those who wonder if it's worth it: it is, for people like me who tries to run all over the tree, as then I know what to expect out of sys-firmware failures... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il 22/07/2012 01:33, Alexey Shvetsov ha scritto: >> May be sys-firmware? =) > If we make sys-firmware we might want to move the various Intel, > Ralink and AMD firmware blobs there as well. +1 These packages are currently scattered all over the tree: sys-apps, sys-kernel, media-tv, net-wireless, and x11-drivers (maybe more). Ulrich
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Il 22/07/2012 01:33, Alexey Shvetsov ha scritto: > May be sys-firmware? =) If we make sys-firmware we might want to move the various Intel, Ralink and AMD firmware blobs there as well. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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May be sys-firmware? =) Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina писал 2012-07-22 08:53: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2012 12:12 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: I've got a few ROMs to add to the tree and some which are already in the tree if people have a suggestion where they should live. Short list: ipxe openbios seabios sgabios vgabios sys-bios? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQC4dkAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKKHUP/1tab6d5DImIMABO9MEbQwAX j/UVCg41+nKC4Kc04bfcFjYuzU8Ncl0JTGFQIbN2yq20SO2js2yK/tLHaoo2Gh1F 1xGy1QAHSEJxnyzwLZS9m/7riWJldjFUQWpODtDMMpkiZLGRPBy3FG7i0M6xAyu/ GWqahiIsYUSlwCTI+yCbPKSjAj5RFxkGLHl0/BWq9op1qriId/lIRkAZTjXHGGgB wWWbG+3fjWclY9JhHlvGPr99qV6d1LkmapFVDTpVWbFUbMFjqxyc73EWscaBM2+N budbOtZ5uWPfAD5Qj4eUxzrM8cHzqbgBwXXTD7bGOfQNEHUVIqFKme1XuHk7/Q/P YjKlFunOZoycQpmy0OSQdxdmx5SzLTOJe94Lx0tMu6sp2cwK7Yif8yypZKXBklwc UiNAhZPndj+GlWqZhsQeAdmQ9rRa9Yh2XvhZZdR2/gzAj3Bv78io2qwNNxhgpYkf B9wAPTXnK1thhunLp71N8LGCiOUw98y1bgIX6lZvYyrMc2JK7y1HUbEA5vp01jgY n9mh/9205DRqgZWG7xZyMYlYECva9qskxPxufL7Qe100VtL5ZamNSiNynUINTsad RJEj4edr1EcvPaeFrUTzL1MrlouSgJoCe8/AYOZRf37JLZKmf3X4Tyr520g9/MY9 FxcmrcG8FDJ1c76g+Jh/ =lGpl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best Regards, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute, Gatchina, Russia Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics Gentoo Team Ru Gentoo Linux Dev mailto:alexx...@gmail.com mailto:ale...@gentoo.org mailto:ale...@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2012 12:12 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I've got a few ROMs to add to the tree and some which are already in > the tree if people have a suggestion where they should live. Short > list: > > ipxe > openbios > seabios > sgabios > vgabios > sys-bios? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQC4dkAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKKHUP/1tab6d5DImIMABO9MEbQwAX j/UVCg41+nKC4Kc04bfcFjYuzU8Ncl0JTGFQIbN2yq20SO2js2yK/tLHaoo2Gh1F 1xGy1QAHSEJxnyzwLZS9m/7riWJldjFUQWpODtDMMpkiZLGRPBy3FG7i0M6xAyu/ GWqahiIsYUSlwCTI+yCbPKSjAj5RFxkGLHl0/BWq9op1qriId/lIRkAZTjXHGGgB wWWbG+3fjWclY9JhHlvGPr99qV6d1LkmapFVDTpVWbFUbMFjqxyc73EWscaBM2+N budbOtZ5uWPfAD5Qj4eUxzrM8cHzqbgBwXXTD7bGOfQNEHUVIqFKme1XuHk7/Q/P YjKlFunOZoycQpmy0OSQdxdmx5SzLTOJe94Lx0tMu6sp2cwK7Yif8yypZKXBklwc UiNAhZPndj+GlWqZhsQeAdmQ9rRa9Yh2XvhZZdR2/gzAj3Bv78io2qwNNxhgpYkf B9wAPTXnK1thhunLp71N8LGCiOUw98y1bgIX6lZvYyrMc2JK7y1HUbEA5vp01jgY n9mh/9205DRqgZWG7xZyMYlYECva9qskxPxufL7Qe100VtL5ZamNSiNynUINTsad RJEj4edr1EcvPaeFrUTzL1MrlouSgJoCe8/AYOZRf37JLZKmf3X4Tyr520g9/MY9 FxcmrcG8FDJ1c76g+Jh/ =lGpl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion
I've got a few ROMs to add to the tree and some which are already in the tree if people have a suggestion where they should live. Short list: ipxe openbios seabios sgabios vgabios -- Doug Goldstein
