[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:46:38 -0400 as excerpted: An issue your suggestion doesn't address is when packages don't even stick around 30 days/etc. I know I've seen many packages where there is an ancient stable version that is never touched, and a much newer ~arch version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Talking about...  Just today I was reading that the firefox folks are debating shortening the current 6-week cycle to 5-weeks or less. Upstream issues are a whole different kettle of fish, but obviously still cause problems.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:10:27 -0400 as excerpted: Plus at least with firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop working/etc, assuming they still get upstream security notices. That's the thing. AFAIK, they don't. FF4 is still getting them I believe, due to longer term

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 12:10 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: Maybe we need to rethink the definition of stable in these situations. I think it still doesn't hurt to have some kind of QA cycle internally for something like firefox. Plus at least with firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop working/etc,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote: I agree that these new 'channel' concepts are not very compatible with out stable/testing tree model and security stabilizations.  Every single stabilization (except the first) of www-client/chromium for instance is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 13:37 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: I LIKE the contribution of linux distros, and I don't really want to see a move towards the Windows world where I have 10 different auto-updaters running (or worse - no auto-update and I'm just stuck with manual checks). I also don't like every