On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Ulrich Mueller <u...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I didn't really get any response to this one way or another. At the >> last council meeting a majority of the votes were in favor of >> delaying taking action, so this is back on the agenda. > >> I have yet to see either of the following on this list: >> 1. Specific examples of bugs where a minor arch is making a >> maintainer's life difficult. Please post if you have them. >> 2. Members of these arch teams posting here committing to either >> stabilize new versions or unkeyword old versions in a timely manner. > >> The responses to either of these (or lack thereof) are likely to >> influence my vote at the meeting. Note, I'm not interested in mere >> comments that people want an arch to stay stable supported (which >> I've seen plenty of). I'm interested in COMMITMENT to be >> stable-supportable (which I've seen none of). The lack of the >> latter is what is going to cause a package to be dropped - I'd love >> to see every arch that exists stable-supported on Gentoo, along with >> world peace. This is a volunteer distro - in general you get the >> features you pitch in to help deliver, and if you're depending on a >> minor arch you REALLY need to step up as there aren't many of you >> out there. That said, I would like specific examples of cases where >> dropping a minor arch would have helped - the onus is on those >> wanting the status quo changed to present a case. > > [Crossposting to -dev. Replies should go to -project if possible.] > > Again, no reply. I suspect the outcome of today's vote will be that > stable keywords for the architectures in question (alpha, ia64, m68k, > s390, sh, sparc) should be dropped. > > Arch teams, last chance to speak up. > > Ulrich >
I've already spoken up as have others. I'm an alpha maintainer and I'm against this. jmorgan is a sparc maintainer and he's against it. I don't care about the others, and frankly understand the frustration with long stable requests, but leave alpha out of it.
