[gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-24 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Sat, 23 Jun 2012 16:30:53 -0700 as excerpted: On 06/16/2012 02:56 PM, Duncan wrote: Meanwhile, one coming solution to this, in portage 2.2 anyway, is sets. Unfortunately, it has begun to look like sets are where baselayout2 and openrc were for many years, forever coming,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/16/2012 02:56 PM, Duncan wrote: Meanwhile, one coming solution to this, in portage 2.2 anyway, is sets. Since I've been working with kde4 since it was overlay-only and sets- only, no meta-packages, I've been using sets for quite awhile and it's now entirely integrated into how I work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 22:07 -0500, Dale escribió: Duncan wrote: Looking at the broader picture, the problem of extraneous packages in the world file has always concerned me. If it were to be done over again, and I think Zac would likely agree, emerge would use --oneshot by

[gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Duncan
Pacho Ramos posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:30:55 +0200 as excerpted: 2. If user emerges ppp, it will be recorded in world file and, then, if in the future he removes bluez, emerge --depclean want clean no longer needed ppp and then, people end up with a lot of packages they needed to

[gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Duncan
Pacho Ramos posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:33 +0200 as excerpted: What kind of argument is disk is pretty cheap. I still administrate a laptop with a 250GB of disk space, and that space cannot be as large if you have a lot of files at home. Also, you are missing that having unneeded

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Peter Stuge
Duncan wrote: users would unmerge ppp if they knew about it when they no longer needed it, but knowing about it is the problem. Sorry, but what is the connection to a USE flag? I agree that knowing about it is the problem. I don't think that knowing about a package is different from knowing

[gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Duncan
Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:16:36 +0200 as excerpted: Duncan wrote: users would unmerge ppp if they knew about it when they no longer needed it, but knowing about it is the problem. Sorry, but what is the connection to a USE flag? I agree that knowing about it is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Looking at the broader picture, the problem of extraneous packages in the world file has always concerned me. If it were to be done over again, and I think Zac would likely agree, emerge would use --oneshot by default, so as not to contaminate the world file unnecessarily.