[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:52:19 +0100
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:06:54 +0100
 Amadeusz Żołnowski aide...@gentoo.org wrote:
 
   Status = NEW  Assignee = bug-wranglers - Status = UNCONFIRMED
   Status = NEW  Assignee = [maintainer] - Status = CONFIRMED
  
  Who confirms the bug?  I would expect that CONFIRMED is set by the
  package maintainer and the one who assigns bugs leaves the status.
 
 I was referring to existing bug reports, not new ones. New ones should
 come in as UNCONFIRMED and would be changed to CONFIRMED when assigned
 - bug wrangling does have this element of validation, you know.
 Apparently when maintainers accept the bug, it changes to IN PROGRESS,
 and when [s]he doesn't it should be resolved as invalid or duplicate
 or whatever, but heck, maybe the flow chart should speak for itself.

Bug wranglers should only mark bugs CONFIRMED if they can personally
reproduce them.  If no one has produced the bug other than the original
poster then that's the very definition of UNCONFIRMED.

Or maybe you're thinking CONFIRMED as in I confirm this is a bug report and
not a lunch order?


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[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-07 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:34:55 +0100 as excerpted:

 I'd say, both to UNCONFIRMED. Before, we used to set 'NEW' for newly-
 added bugs and didn't use UNCONFIRMED often. Right now, it seems logical
 to use UNCONFIRMED for the new bugs and let devs (re-)confirm them as
 necessary.

I've wondered about that choice in the past, but tended to simply leave it 
at the default (new), figuring (while having my doubts about viability) if 
they were both available and new was the default, unconfirmed must be an 
intentional downgrade available for users who weren't sure yet, and were 
going to follow up later after further tests.

 I think it might be even a good idea to limit the possibility of setting
 'CONFIRMED' to devs. Otherwise, I see users bumping each of their bugs
 to 'CONFIRMED' immediately.

Is it possible to leave that option for users, but block it such that the 
original filer can't flip it?  If so, IMO that would be best, as a second 
user could then confirm it.

If it's not possible to block, unconfirmed could at least be made the 
default and the wranglers could complain about (and change) bugs filed as 
confirmed as they assign them.  The message should eventually get out, 
and having a second user confirm the bug could actually be quite useful 
for busy devs trying to prioritize their bugs.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:17:37 +0100
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org:
  We're almost done with the preparation of bugzilla-4.x for
  bugs.gentoo.org. So, do we want the new workflow or do we want to
  keep the old?
 
  New one, reopened is a bit pointless information on first glance.
  History tells enough.

It's an important flag for a bug wrangler.


 jer



[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Christian Ruppert id...@gentoo.org:
 We're almost done with the preparation of bugzilla-4.x for
 bugs.gentoo.org. So, do we want the new workflow or do we want to
 keep the old?

 New one, reopened is a bit pointless information on first glance.
 History tells enough.

V-Li

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