[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:25:40 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] This is pushed out now. I also ended up dropping LTO support for 4.5. If you're using LTO as shipped in 4.5 you are braver than anyone deserves to be. -- gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets @ gentoo.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... You might not mean to but honestly, do you really think that we have circular deps because we like them? FFS I've been the biggest user of FEATURES=test, and the one who poured in more time to get stuff to work, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On Wed, 01 May 2013 01:29:05 -0400 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... My beef is not with the existence of this FEATURE but that it's enabled in the dev profile. I was lucky once to not commit a broken testsuite.
[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:00:29 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... You might not mean to but honestly, do you really think that we have circular deps because we like them? FFS I've been the biggest user of FEATURES=test, and the one who poured in more time to get stuff to work, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. He wasn't singling you out, just naming a part of the tree that has a lot of circular deps. He could've said python just as easy. Relax, have a Guinness. -- gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets @ gentoo.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:00:29 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... You might not mean to but honestly, do you really think that we have circular deps because we like them? FFS I've been the biggest user of FEATURES=test, and the one who poured in more time to get stuff to work, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. He wasn't singling you out, just naming a part of the tree that has a lot of circular deps. He could've said python just as easy. He may not have meant to, but he said ruby herd specifically... on which Diego does a lot of work.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/01/2013 03:00 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... You might not mean to but honestly, do you really think that we have circular deps because we like them? FFS I've been the biggest user of FEATURES=test, and the one who poured in more time to get stuff to work, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. I am sorry that I have offended you, but unfortunately this is what happens when I try to enable tests: http://dev.gentoo.org/~zerochaos/distfiles/ruby_test_deps.txt As you can see, enabling this by default in any profile would be rather crippling to gentoo as a whole. I am not blaming anyone, nor do I understand what has caused the current situation. What I do understand is that I am unable to run with FEATURES=test enabled by default despite having the desire to do so. I have the hardware to run automated test, I have the desire to run automated tests, the only thing I don't have is the time to sort out hundreds of circular deps in ruby. If it helps lower the tempers, I don't bitch about things I'm not willing to help fix. If someone from the ruby team wants to discuss this with me (on or off this list) I will be happy to listen to the problem and try to find a sane solution. Likely this will require changes to the dep structure or portage, but these subjects interest me very much and I feel it is well worth my time to help with this. You have two choices: 1.) Continue to curse me and we stay where we are 2.) accept the help offered Your call. - -Zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRgfJFAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKyYUP/R+GNFv9SC4NASSFAh8nSNBH MUG3+5k5UpI1AtbSyt1VdnQztgK5b4x9RmSard0PptlOgB0g/Nf24b6qbaT/SYFR DI8FmhQaZLmf4icw2/LjK6mO0r9gPfiB5Rm4LFmkHMJVDxd2HmkV4bMV2Y+zfoLZ A0SwK2Y3jMGjTmL4Eg/j3ExRVYDQP2Uo1uF56XU6+5pcn+gI4gA+dCB3Q7RDEqtM L8sds5WijA10Jd5q6QKSNnDQmv7jLioRqFuVupJ5QlieIdQCY0jaYEwlasTfGKKh FlxmSLF3Uw08tLDgMWXpjrRsnyzup9V/zNwQiMD6SOukTvqoQPJ1p+/5qrur+OVD /NjvdqXBk8kYjmhXVGdyOhVDgeEyknG/hqxgT/z7abNqIaYPufel8tV5+DQL28H+ 2FLU8DorMfXBzpYqPW/g55gSalOytR3jpVGPEthTt91b8YbbvOgdWkdIl0c8qmeV r7xrPhMQ6wZUX0hapcX3670sUYXeLjactYvJLj6WQyT+pIfnSTaI0QYjsDpnmOfy 0KPuw3MMjuSYdp0iIq8IxVRbUJ94sM9PqzoFVp8hXHFf80IWV7RaZBzABwzBY9fW eKlWTylRM7rw08SddHaU4lSiOhN3y9AtPV0NQSnxq5klT5IH8MSTwgB4t3oo5M7h xlkncCfm1vHt9kS3A5Qi =SO5/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 00:57 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 05/01/2013 03:00 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 01/05/2013 06:29, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... You might not mean to but honestly, do you really think that we have circular deps because we like them? FFS I've been the biggest user of FEATURES=test, and the one who poured in more time to get stuff to work, so please don't effing go around blaming people without even having a clue about what's going on, you just piss me off. I am sorry that I have offended you, but unfortunately this is what happens when I try to enable tests: http://dev.gentoo.org/~zerochaos/distfiles/ruby_test_deps.txt Note that these are not circular dependencies. dev-ruby/mocha should really be slotted now. This has been creeping up on us with versions initially looking to be upward compatible. I've put it on my todo list. I'll have a look at ruby_parser and sexp-processor as well. You have two choices: 1.) Continue to curse me and we stay where we are 2.) accept the help offered Fixing https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175808 would be useful (though it wouldn't help with this particular problem). Hans
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/30/2013 11:49 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Wed, 01 May 2013 11:33:00 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 05/01/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change flags on gcc this is a friendly notice of some upcoming changes. [snip lots of good ideas] Any thoughts? I'm in favour of unleashing 4.8 in ~arch soon - I've been building everything with it for a while, I've reached 50% coverage of all packages on amd64, and the amount of new bugs is about the same as still open bugs for 4.7. All in all it's a very benign release that (imo) doesn't need to be held back. Yeah it's been amazingly quiet. The loop transformation improvements may only bite us at runtime however (another vote for FEATURES=test by default and I don't mean to start a flamewar here but the test suite situation is so bad with circular deps (I'm looking at you ruby herd) and random failures that I only enable tests for my own packages. Sadly it is so bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say anything negative, that fact really says it all... fix your testsuites people!). Please, pretty please. - -Zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRgKggAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKTYoP/Rm80i7Fca3Ao+H0WQriTrgS 1tYHMVQ7IN05tnq8f/JKSItE+23VPFH4lyOVJRNW+SBghy0wEA5/kl2GSTY4GrxE lTMmnUUPWy7/wGvR+oYc0E2+XJdWwG4smZBenlARM912Oq+i24D00eicVPchGL9g PNFB8mSTPO3LUkSmra3mzKbnkezpNiJx77bd/D7EK9ojXKq4rA/lt85G8DlgWuav LbfWtPCjHSZ+4faxSsae/aF31ptxX0qFdLCS8RVeT1y4fx5qehvi5rSSMCV84Tl4 SLJv0p+52SrGXQgcaWxW/mhgAcfVmMx7TTZwnqYp1+T1Ixl5aQ6nG1l3hTC0bm5Y vqdJBur4NuqWT/BStSkD5vaasPug+9f8NhuIFla6U2MnGEVHOUAb4zr+xt++C7Nr jO0uMNCP21pzs8mdTvrUT9xiwH62/Wj9Q1/u52yCNpn7gRgT4v6Cq8AeiPcvLQSu A+X9b86gHe3ArAUkCJZ4OvPbAjFfU/aM+HV9BG5e/DHvjtYx4c2Z1hRiGB7IOpHq VhR46owcQ+8Dn4LXsTTBbVzLFTsim8AFbyErBw0vAi+W5lo8i49QxkDNqBz1xLES 6NtRl7GOcIU9ZSQSrxwAG/ZCC9YveJz/joghZJxpdgRCIZi6vJKgc8dLktVxSYPf YlcuAI6zCAyFNa4LiO9K =/kLa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
