On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:45:25 +1000
Stuart Longland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a somewhat related note... I've sat back and watched this
> argument for some time now. Banning people seems like an extremely
> drastic measure. Sure, it's easy. It's also easily circumvented,
> and is onl
Stuart Longland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Gentoo Foundation) wrote:
> How's this for an idea though... Rather than banning *people*... why
> not temporarily ban a thread? I know this is easily possible on forum
> threads -- mailing lists are more difficult, but if one could lock a
> thread for a
Jakub Moc wrote:
> Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
>> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
>>> And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these
>>> 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are
>>> recruiting people as always? And
"Rob C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a new Gentoo developer but I have worked on a number of other small
> projects. This list is a disgrace and most flames are nothing but
> showboating. If you have an issue then deal with it directly with whomever
> is causing the problem.
Dealing it who cau
Dear List,
> > 1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
> Who defines 'impolite'? It's a cultural thing, and given that we have
> developers and users from all over the world, we span a lot of vastly
> different cultures.
I am aware of this issue, but it is not needed to solve it at once or
pe
these are where warnings and apologies come in. plus I think only
repeated behavior should result in permanent removal.
On 3/5/07, Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:07:58 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
Who defines 'im
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:07:58 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
Who defines 'impolite'? It's a cultural thing, and given that we have
developers and users from all over the world, we span a lot of vastly
different cultures.
> 2. Anyone who repeatedly and
Thank you.
I am replying off-list because I do not want to create even more flaming.
I'm not a dev. Just a user in terms of gentoo. I'm subscribed to the
list since I need all the info I can get. And gentoo has definitely come
a long way in the last few weeks. First that 8-Day-Flame about saving
P.S.: I know I did not read the complete thread, yet I am physically ill at
the moment, not able to read it all. [ <-- fuel your flame-o-mat with
this ;-) ]
-- OFFTOPIC --
--START FLAME --
how can you write that long of a letter if you can't read and what
does a physical illness have to do with r
Dear list,
Why not simply naming the "formal logic rules" for the "official venue where
developers (and ex-developers and users) can talk out their disagreements"
to be:
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
2. Anyone who repeatedly and seemingly on purpose tries to harm the discussion
wi
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these
>> 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are
>> recruiting people as always? And that you will continue
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:25:31PM +, Steve Long wrote:
> Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
>
> > Maybe if Ciaran recognized his past faults, begged pardon and promised
> > to be kinder from now and on, everything would be easier for everyone,
> > everything would calm down.
> >
> I share your dream ;
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:33:31 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:54 +
> Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What, and make everyone move the development discussion elsewhere?
> > Have you noticed how little development discussion goes on on the
> >
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:54 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What, and make everyone move the development discussion elsewhere?
> Have you noticed how little development discussion goes on on the
> forums? Have you ever considered why?
It's full of trolls. Have you considered why
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:25:54 + Steve Long
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> What kind of response do you think anyone else would have received
> >> had they started repeatedly attacking a project when they didn't
> >> even know what that project was, repeatedly tried to interfere
> >> with the ma
I wish you guys would just let the forum moderators moderate this mailing
list. You'd soon see why the gentoo forums are the envy of the support
world.
I agree. I also agree with temporary ban's to reduce flame wars.
people need to cool down sometimes.
---concerned gentoo user.
--
gentoo-dev@ge
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Maybe if Ciaran recognized his past faults, begged pardon and promised
> to be kinder from now and on, everything would be easier for everyone,
> everything would calm down.
>
I share your dream ;)
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:15:36 -0500 "William
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +, Hubert Mercier wrote:
> >> What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ?
> >> Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of th
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:22:08AM +, Alex Tarkovsky wrote:
> Bryan Østergaard gentoo.org> writes:
>
> Bryan, instead of always addressing the symptoms by asking people to kindly be
> quiet or move things elsewhere, why don't you do something more substantive
> about what ails Gentoo develope
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +, Hubert Mercier wrote:
>> What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ?
>> Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of the retire mails
>> in the last year : very often people are just fe
Bryan Østergaard gentoo.org> writes:
>
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:16:47PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> > Alexander Færøy napsal(a):
> > >On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 09:51:34PM +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > >>What do you plan on doing next with your time?
> > >
> > >How cute, but please take this i
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 23:31:56 + (UTC) Hubert Mercier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the last months, a some talented devs gone, and a few others were
> thinking to do so. How much more before deciding to simplify our
> organisation ?
Simplifying it won't help. If Gentoo wants more developers,
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +, Hubert Mercier wrote:
> What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ?
> Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of the retire mails
> in the last year : very often people are just fed up with conflicts,
> tired of
Hi,
Why do people keep repeating this myth? As kloeri pointed out,
developer base keeps growing constantly.
That's really a good news. And yo're right of course, developer base keeps
growing. But... A problem remains : is a "fresh" developer as "efficient"
as a "guru" devlopper ?. Of course,
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