[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Duncan
Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:03:59 -0500: > Knowing about port 587 is half the battle (yeah, read the docs mike:). > Getting it to work from the office with even more restrictive firewalls > is another thing - but are we ac

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Duncan
Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:24:37 -0500: > Not an option for everyone without a lot of needless hoop jumping, like > ssh port forwarding. Cox (rhyme it as you will), my cable provider, > doesn't allow 25 to leave their net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 11/7/06, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I accept that has been the position. As for devs not wanting to do it, I'm thinking it would be part of the standard emerge process (ie binhost/PKGDIR and -b) but you would need to add tagging of USE flags if the binary format ATM does not include

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:30:02 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > My compiles as a dev are of very minimal use to anybody except me. > > There are too many things that are specific to my systems. > > > Sure. Presumably you test packages with standard C-flags as

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Long
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > From all of the large Gentoo deployments I've done (one of which > exceeded 200 machines), you're approaching this the wrong way. > ... Thanks for the concise and clear explanation. It's the first time I've read a description of how Gentoo might be used on an entreprise le

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 15:45 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > 3. The solution is for each enterprise to have their own tinderbox / > build-machine. Tinderboxing is supported under catalyst, and I believe > there is at least one other tinderbox implementation around. > 4. (Assuming catalyst, as it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 08:47:52AM +, Steve Long wrote: > As to why I don't just do it myself, I think it's a bit silly to duplicate > the > compile that devs do anyway. My compiles as a dev are of very minimal use to anybody except me. There are too many things that are specific to my system

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-04 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 11/3/06, Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve Long wrote: [Fri Nov 03 2006, 02:47:52AM CST] > The main problem I see is USE flags (devs already > compile with standard C-flags right?) but I was thinking about standardising > for 2 or 3 types of network- SOHO, medium and large enterp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-03 Thread Grant Goodyear
Steve Long wrote: [Fri Nov 03 2006, 02:47:52AM CST] > I appreciate that many will be against this idea, but I'd still like to > discuss it: a binary repository for gentoo. > > Yes, I know gentoo is a meta-distro. And that there isn't loads of > bandwidth. That's easily got round. It is? > The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 03 November 2006 03:47, Steve Long wrote: > If gentoo is still serious about enterprise adoption Gentoo as an entire whole is not really "serious" about anything last i checked, it was the "server" project who was working on the whole "enterprise" thing ... those guys are serious about

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-03 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole > Gentoo dev list to see. > I appreciate that many will be against this idea, but I'd still like to discuss it: a binary repository for gen