[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Stephen P. Becker wrote:
 Starting a new thread here for a new angle...
 
 As Stuart mentioned, bugs for any ebuild on o.g.o would go through
 Gentoo bugzilla.  
Yeah, as there is usually a bug report for maintainer-wanted and
maintainer-needed bugs it wont hurt anyone.

 It seems like genstef and jokey have completely 
 ignored support from arch teams for this overlay.  What are you
 proposing with respect to arch keywords and package.mask? 
users are supported to do everything themselves in the sunrise overlay. We
are not trying to add any additional workload to your current one. We are
in fact trying to make life easier for everyone.

 Do you 
 actually expect us to do anything but close assigned bugs for sunrice
 ebuilds as WONTFIX? 
It is more like, explain the users how to fix it themselves, because they
can with the sunrise overlay.

 Where else would these bugs go except for arch 
 teams, seeing as we clearly can't assign them to end users who
 originally submitted the maintainer-wanted ebuilds?
These are not expected to be filed as bugs, they should be fixed by the
users in question.

- Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Stephen P. Becker
  Where else would these bugs go except for arch
 teams, seeing as we clearly can't assign them to end users who
 originally submitted the maintainer-wanted ebuilds?
 These are not expected to be filed as bugs, they should be fixed by the
 users in question.

Apparently, this is not the case.  Policy for overlays.gentoo.org
stipulates that all bugs in overlays must use our bugzilla.

-Steve
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Stuart Herbert

On 6/9/06, Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Apparently, this is not the case.  Policy for overlays.gentoo.org stipulates 
that all bugs in overlays must use our bugzilla.


The intention of the policy is to prevent the use of third-party bug
trackers for tracking problems w/ ebuilds in overlays.  There's no
requirement that developers and users must use bugzillla to track
changes to ebuilds (which is what I believe Stefan was trying to say).

Best regards,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 15:35 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
  It seems like genstef and jokey have completely 
  ignored support from arch teams for this overlay.  What are you
  proposing with respect to arch keywords and package.mask? 
 users are supported to do everything themselves in the sunrise overlay. We
 are not trying to add any additional workload to your current one. We are
 in fact trying to make life easier for everyone.

Except that you aren't accomplishing this.  I have shown lots of points
where this will increase workload on an already overworked group of
volunteers, yet the proponents of this project are either overlooking
them, avoiding them, or simply ignoring them.

  Do you 
  actually expect us to do anything but close assigned bugs for sunrice
  ebuilds as WONTFIX? 
 It is more like, explain the users how to fix it themselves, because they
 can with the sunrise overlay.

...or just mark it as WONTFIX because we won't fix it.  It isn't our job
to go around policing things that are not in the portage tree.  If it
was good enough or popular enough to be of concern to us, it would be
*IN THE TREE* where it belongs.  Why is this so hard to understand?

  Where else would these bugs go except for arch 
  teams, seeing as we clearly can't assign them to end users who
  originally submitted the maintainer-wanted ebuilds?
 These are not expected to be filed as bugs, they should be fixed by the
 users in question.

So now we will have random users also doing work of the architecture
team?

How about you guys start building the releases, too?  I'm sure you'll
have a wonderful time with the reiser4/broken-sources ricer crowd out
there.

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux


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