On 2012.07.27 03:37, Duncan wrote:
[snip]
Not that such promises hold much credibility anyway... see the kde
promise (from Aaron S when he was president of KDE e.v. so as
credible a spokesperson as it gets) continued kde3 support as long
as there were
users. (AFAIK, at least gnome
Roy Bamford posted on Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:51:47 +0100 as excerpted:
You don't want to listen to Presidents too much. Look at other real
life examples.
Would you claim that the President of the Gentoo Foundation speaks for
Gentoo?
If he were making claims of that nature, yes, barring
Duncan wrote:
the responsibility of whatever organization to either follow
thru or repudiate, as it's the reputation and credibility of
that organization on the line if they don't.
I think it's unreasonable to expect any third party to accept
responsibility for a receiver which is
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:49:04PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
[ snip ]
9) Otherwise, at very minimum, they're failing the build udev pretty
much the same as before
./configure
make
make install
You fail to see
Canek Peláez Valdés posted on Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:08:35 -0500 as
excerpted:
Just to clarify, udev/systemd never promised to make the component
parts buildable separately. They promised:
we will be supporting this for a long time since it is a necessity to
make initrds (which lack systemd)
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
[ snip ]
9) Otherwise, at very minimum, they're failing the build udev pretty
much the same as before
./configure
make
make install
You fail to see the matter from their POV. They don't care (that much)
about building, because
Ben de Groot posted on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 as excerpted:
When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they promised
that udev would continue to be able to be used separately from systemd.
We should hold them to that promise.
If they break their promise (as it seems
Michał Górny posted on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:15:10 +0200 as excerpted:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org
wrote:
When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they promised
that udev would continue to be able to be used separately from systemd.
We
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:27:48 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Michał Górny posted on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:15:10 +0200 as excerpted:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org
wrote:
When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no need to
build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant.
I think this discussion is getting sidetracked.
This didn't start out as a discussion about whether
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On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net
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Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no
need to build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant.
I think
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net
wrote:
Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work
into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's
been a good deal of success there, up to and including it working with
GNOME 2. The
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work
into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's
been a good
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:49:18AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote
Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot
of work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for
udev. There's been a good deal of success there, up to and including
it working with GNOME 2. The work's been
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