Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Federico Ferri
Ciaran McCreesh ha scritto: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using your analogy you should then recognise that there is a strong dislike for pink and should seek a new colour that allows the building of said extensions. And what colour would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:16:22 +0100 Federico Ferri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry if this has already suggested. It has. It solves nothing. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 23:20 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:16:22 +0100 Federico Ferri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry if this has already suggested. It has. It solves nothing. If it solves nothing you should at least post a link to the post you made explaining so,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On 12/25/07, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure that Thankyou for reading and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Jan Kundrát
Roy Marples wrote: I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Do you count version as metadata? Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub more beer /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Roy Marples wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On 12/25/07, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:39 +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote: Roy Marples wrote: I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Do you count version as metadata? No. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Jan Kundrát a écrit : Roy Marples wrote: I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Do you count version as metadata? I'll bite :) Version numbers aren't metadata because they uniquely identify

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:32 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:04:52 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Alright, so where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:04:52 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the requirements that've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:50 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:06 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the requirements that've previously been described are met? I neither know, nor care. I just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:06 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the requirements that've previously been described are met? I neither know, nor care. I just feel very strongly that the current proposal is wrong, and no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:27:05 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I can smell a blatant hack that is just wrong to the bone like a lot of other people here. Clearly not... As you say, you don't care to understand any of this. You're just jumping in because you think you know what a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house pink rather than green because you don't like pink (because your last house was green too),

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house pink rather than green because you don't like pink (because your last house was green too), ignoring that it's been demonstrated that when painted green, it's impossible

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 18:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house pink rather than green because you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 18:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house pink rather than green because you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-25 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:43 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Dec 25, 2007 2:38 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On 12/25/07, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure that Thankyou for reading and understanding the GLEP before jumping in and commenting. --

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Set the EAPI inside the ebuild in a way that makes it easy to fetch it This is ok as atm only EAPI=1 is in the tree, so there is no backward compatibility issue. It's both a backwards and a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
Just picked this particular email to reply with my thoughts on this thread. On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 10:52 +, Steve Long wrote: But they come under the scope of this discussion, since this is about the long-term future of *every* EAPI. So let's discuss them Impossible. History has proven

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo ${EAPI}` Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No points! -- Ciaran McCreesh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo ${EAPI}` Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No points! Works

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 25, 2007 2:38 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo ${EAPI}`