[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
mån 2010-03-08 klockan 10:53 +0100 skrev Antoni Grzymala:

 Sorry guys if I missed something crucial in this lengthy thread, but
 from what I'm understanding:
 
 if python-3 goes stable (and unmasked):
 
 - it is a separate, slotted version
 - it generally shouldn't get pulled in (current portage non-greedy
   behaviour on slots)
 - if it does get pulled in by, say, and old portage version, or a
   package with badly defined deps, it shouldn't do any harm because it
   will just sit quietly in its slot and old packages will still
   compile/run against (already installed) python-2.x
 
 or not?
 
 PS. one thing I realize I may be missing is the /usr/bin/python symlink
 and the /usr/bin/python-wrapper to which it points. Will the default
 change to python31 upon python-3 installation?
 
 best,
 

AFAICS you are right (and that is also why I have a hard time
understanding the flames here, are people so against fixing the deps in
their packages and/or filing bugs and/or contacting devrel about those
maintainers who refuse to fix their packages?).

about your ps: pyhon-3 is absolutely harmless in its current form, and
that is partly because it does not take over the role as the system
python unless you do something stupid/uninformed.





Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-08 Thread Petteri Räty
On 8.3.2010 16.23, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote:

 
 AFAICS you are right (and that is also why I have a hard time
 understanding the flames here, are people so against fixing the deps in
 their packages and/or filing bugs and/or contacting devrel about those
 maintainers who refuse to fix their packages?).
 

There's some history with the original author that contributes to people
being negative about this. This is not the first thread about python-3
and many feel that it's being forced on them when they have no use for
it (but the forcing part doesn't match reality that much any more as has
been shown). I don't think anyone is against fixing the deps but who
takes the job of reviewing them all?

Regards,
Petteri