Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz 
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Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on
> third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide
> links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change
> (most notably the IBM ones).
> 
> Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I'm proposing to remove
> the page from the Gentoo web site alltogether. Interested users can easily
> find those articles by searching on the IBM DW web site themselves.

BTW, if this is a problem of your time, I would be happy to take over
maintaining this page in the way I'd like to see it. =)

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand 
On Thursday 09 June 2005 20.05, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the
> > Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one
> > about the Enoch and how it became Gentoo.
>
> Because it's something relevant to Linux done by a member of our
> community. And of course we care what people in our community are doing,
> don't we? Well, I guess some of us don't.

Just wondering.
Who decides what goes on or stays off the list. What criteria should be/is 
used in the process? ("relevant" and/or "significant" are very subjective). 
Is it a "dead" list that should stay in (a possibly edited) a specified form 
forever?

Cheers,

Martin S
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread David Morgan 
On 18:59 Thu 09 Jun , Alec Warner wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> >It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
> >removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
> >articles exist?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Donnie
> 
>   I have to agree here, something should be left behind.  Many of the 
> articles that are linked to have helped me out in the past, and leaving 
> some sort of link or "hey go search for these @IBM" would be useful IMHO.
> 

FWIW, I agree too. It's not like leaving articles.xml or some sort of
replacement is doing any harm, and it is useful.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Alec Warner 

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

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Sven Vermeulen wrote:


Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on
third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide
links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change
(most notably the IBM ones).

Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I'm proposing to remove
the page from the Gentoo web site alltogether. Interested users can easily
find those articles by searching on the IBM DW web site themselves.

This idea is also backed up by the fact that not many articles talk about
Gentoo and some of them are outdated (or use an outdated view that has been
superseded by newer methods).



It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
articles exist?

Thanks,
Donnie
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	I have to agree here, something should be left behind.  Many of the 
articles that are linked to have helped me out in the past, and leaving 
some sort of link or "hey go search for these @IBM" would be useful IMHO.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz 
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Olivier Crete wrote:
> I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the
> Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one
> about the Enoch and how it became Gentoo.

Because it's something relevant to Linux done by a member of our
community. And of course we care what people in our community are doing,
don't we? Well, I guess some of us don't.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Olivier Crete 
On Thu, 2005-09-06 at 10:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
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> Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > 
> >>It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
> >>removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
> >>articles exist?
> > 
> > 
> > Google?
> > 
> > It's not our job to index Linux-related articles.
> 
> So I can google for "all Linux-related articles by Gentoo developers"?
> It's not all Linux-related articles, so your comment is a bit deceptive.
> It's articles by Gentoo developers. And it is our job to be Gentoo. =)

I still fail to see why everything done by Gentoo devs belongs on the
Gentoo page. The only article that belongs on the Gentoo page is the one
about the Enoch and how it became Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz 
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Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> 
>>It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
>>removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
>>articles exist?
> 
> 
> Google?
> 
> It's not our job to index Linux-related articles.

So I can google for "all Linux-related articles by Gentoo developers"?
It's not all Linux-related articles, so your comment is a bit deceptive.
It's articles by Gentoo developers. And it is our job to be Gentoo. =)

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen 
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
> removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
> articles exist?

Google?

It's not our job to index Linux-related articles.

Wkr,
  Sven Vermeulen

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz 
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Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on
> third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide
> links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change
> (most notably the IBM ones).
> 
> Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I'm proposing to remove
> the page from the Gentoo web site alltogether. Interested users can easily
> find those articles by searching on the IBM DW web site themselves.
> 
> This idea is also backed up by the fact that not many articles talk about
> Gentoo and some of them are outdated (or use an outdated view that has been
> superseded by newer methods).

It would still be useful to keep the titles and other info, just
removing the link. Otherwise, how are people supposed to even know the
articles exist?

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Lance Albertson 
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:45 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on
> third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide
> links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change
> (most notably the IBM ones).
> 
> Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I'm proposing to remove
> the page from the Gentoo web site alltogether. Interested users can easily
> find those articles by searching on the IBM DW web site themselves.
> 
> This idea is also backed up by the fact that not many articles talk about
> Gentoo and some of them are outdated (or use an outdated view that has been
> superseded by newer methods).

Yeah, I'd say thats a good call. If anything, we can list such article
in a GWN which will always be listed on our site somewhere. (Just may
not be easily searchable)

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[gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Sven Vermeulen 
Many Gentoo developers have written articles about Linux and Gentoo on
third-party sites. The articles page [1] was originally meant to provide
links to those articles. However, it frequently occurs that links change
(most notably the IBM ones).

Because it is a pain to keep these links in shape, I'm proposing to remove
the page from the Gentoo web site alltogether. Interested users can easily
find those articles by searching on the IBM DW web site themselves.

This idea is also backed up by the fact that not many articles talk about
Gentoo and some of them are outdated (or use an outdated view that has been
superseded by newer methods).

Wkr,
  Sven Vermeulen

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/articles.xml

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