Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-02-11 Thread Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier
[2020-02-11 10:52:57-0500] Rich Freeman: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier > wrote: > > > > Maybe it could for now be a simple agreement on putting your code to > > the Gentoo Foundation under the GPL-2+ but it would be published under > > the GPL-{2,3,…}? > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-02-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:05 AM Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier wrote: > > Maybe it could for now be a simple agreement on putting your code to > the Gentoo Foundation under the GPL-2+ but it would be published under > the GPL-{2,3,…}? > Well, if we were going to get people to start signing things I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-02-11 Thread Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier
[2020-01-30 08:19:08-0500] Rich Freeman: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 6:20 AM Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier > wrote: > > [2020-01-27 12:41:26+0100] Ulrich Mueller: > > > So, the question is, should we allow ebuilds > > > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, v2 or > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-02-03 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:19:08 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > Really the main threat (IMO) is that the code could be de-copylefted. > They could make GPL v4 a copy of the BSD license, and now anything > that was v2+ is effectively BSD and can be used in non-FOSS software > without issue. I guess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 8:39 AM Hanno Böck wrote: > > *If* Gentoo decides to go this relicensing way I'd recommend to only do > that if it's coordinated with organizations that have deep legal > knowledge of these issues (e.g. like software freedom conservancy) and > if some lawyers that know

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-30 Thread Hanno Böck
I'm a bit worried if we should really go down that path. Not because I have issues with GPL2+ (I'm usually happy with everything that makes licensing more flexible), but because I'm worried we're creating a legal minefield. Think about this: You may ask me if you can relicense all the ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 6:20 AM Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier wrote: > > [2020-01-27 12:41:26+0100] Ulrich Mueller: > > So, the question is, should we allow ebuilds > > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, v2 or later > > in the repository, or should we even encourage it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-30 Thread Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier
[2020-01-27 12:41:26+0100] Ulrich Mueller: > So, the question is, should we allow ebuilds > # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, v2 or later > in the repository, or should we even encourage it for new ebuilds? > > I have somewhat mixed feelings about this. One the one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 6:41 AM Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > Historically, all ebuilds in the Gentoo repository were licensed under > GPL-2+. At a later point they were relicensed [1] to GPL-2. See [2] for > a rationale (or absence of it, YMMV). I think the historical policy made sense in its

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-27 Thread Jonas Stein
> Note that we could easily revert from GPL-2+ to GPL-2 if it would turn > out to be too much trouble. > > Thoughts? I would prefer a single license for all ebuilds. GPL-2+ or GPL-2 or GPL-... does not matter to me, I am willing to sign, that all my contributions may be licensed also as GPL-...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2020-01-27 at 12:41 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The following came up in #gentoo-qa yesterday, in a discussion between > mgorny, soap and myself. Hey, I was waiting for the Council agenda mail to discuss this ;-). > So, the question is, should we allow ebuilds > # Distributed under

[gentoo-dev] Should we allow "GPL, v2 or later" for ebuilds?

2020-01-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
The following came up in #gentoo-qa yesterday, in a discussion between mgorny, soap and myself. Historically, all ebuilds in the Gentoo repository were licensed under GPL-2+. At a later point they were relicensed [1] to GPL-2. See [2] for a rationale (or absence of it, YMMV). However, in GLEP