Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/01/13 03:42 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Hi guys, do we have some scans that report libraries converted to subslots and lists their rdeps checked if they are updated accordingly? It might be pretty usefull to actually see where the deps needed to be updated so we can take use of this feature where possible (also its a hint for lib maintainers to update their libs and see real impact). Cheers Tom No, we don't -- and I agree, it would. I'll look into it. In general, I would recommend for any library maintainers, to either file bugs against the rdeps of a package or directly update the rdeps (with permission, of course) when implementing sub-slots. Of course, I believe the rdeps of a library can add slot operators to their *DEPEND atoms even if the library doesn't have a sub-slot (yet); this would be useful anyways, as a new sub-slot in the lib will automatically trigger appropriate rebuilding. The only issue here is a maintainer would need to know how sensitive their package is to changes in the library it deoends on (ie whether it actually needs to use a := slot operator or not). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlEBUBMACgkQ2ugaI38ACPDlOgD/THUYZLcO8wT3TRdv/gsEXGsK aM75M3N/Pu7aFlRd/NIA/05THq9ndnFYO7umS4nYa20E2806B4D8sMEmXoHiUOSc =35iX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree
On 01/24/2013 07:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: In general, I would recommend for any library maintainers, to either file bugs against the rdeps of a package or directly update the rdeps (with permission, of course) when implementing sub-slots. Of course, I believe the rdeps of a library can add slot operators to their *DEPEND atoms even if the library doesn't have a sub-slot (yet); this would be useful anyways, as a new sub-slot in the lib will automatically trigger appropriate rebuilding. Yes, that's a good idea. However, it means that the introduction of the first sub-slot will trigger a rebuild of the dependent package. So, it's a good idea to introduce the first sub-slot during a version bump where something has changed that justifies a sub-slot bump. -- Thanks, Zac
Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/01/13 11:39 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/24/2013 07:15 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: In general, I would recommend for any library maintainers, to either file bugs against the rdeps of a package or directly update the rdeps (with permission, of course) when implementing sub-slots. Of course, I believe the rdeps of a library can add slot operators to their *DEPEND atoms even if the library doesn't have a sub-slot (yet); this would be useful anyways, as a new sub-slot in the lib will automatically trigger appropriate rebuilding. Yes, that's a good idea. However, it means that the introduction of the first sub-slot will trigger a rebuild of the dependent package. So, it's a good idea to introduce the first sub-slot during a version bump where something has changed that justifies a sub-slot bump. That seems to be what dev's are doing anyways, though. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlEBaK4ACgkQ2ugaI38ACPAAfgD+Ja3RKlfv1uWn7e3/V2rnGNQQ YY2NHIgQLQxp/Dx66hcA/iPoA7tF6cME8MtqmOumIEVrDzQpE8LEARPmCeQOlqwd =HzQM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree
On 01/23/2013 12:42 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: It might be pretty usefull to actually see where the deps needed to be updated so we can take use of this feature where possible (also its a hint for lib maintainers to update their libs and see real impact). Another useful hint, for those that have FEATURES=preserve-libs enabled, is the @preserved-rebuild suggestion that emerge shows before it exits when there are remaining preserved libraries. Any time that you see this message, it means that there was a missed opportunity for an automatic rebuild, due to sub-slot and/or slot-operator not being used by the involved ebuilds. -- Thanks, Zac
[gentoo-dev] Subslots progress in main tree
Hi guys, do we have some scans that report libraries converted to subslots and lists their rdeps checked if they are updated accordingly? It might be pretty usefull to actually see where the deps needed to be updated so we can take use of this feature where possible (also its a hint for lib maintainers to update their libs and see real impact). Cheers Tom
