Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-07-12 Thread Javier Villavicencio

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
| 2008-07-09 15:45:15 Doug Goldstein napisał(a):
| Luca Barbato wrote:
| Fabian Groffen wrote:
| On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
wrote:
| How can you easily revert it in a profile?
| You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.
| How elegant... but I guess I'll have no choice.
| Shouldn't possible have a subprofile with compiler/linker specifics
| and move there non sharable stuff and keep base leaner?
|
| lu
|
| I'm just going to commit this to default/linux in about 20 minutes
- -Wl,-O1
|
| Cardoe informed me that he planned to add --hash-style=gnu and
- --sort-common
| to default LDFLAGS in the future.
|
| Does anybody know any packages / architectures (except mips) which
have any
| problems with these flags?
|

Sorry I'm late.

This is for BSDs if anyone is interested:

* --hash-style=gnu doesn't work.
* --sort-common has no problems.
* -O1 makes a bit difficult (if not impossible) to obtain decent
backtraces while debugging certain things.



unimportant side story
While -O1 works just fine for everything I've tested so far, if
something fails and you want a backtrace out of a coredump or while
debugging a binary, you may only get the last call, everything else on
the stack is lost in 0x limbo.
I experienced this while debugging a stack overflow in Python's cPickle,
which could be the reason for this behavior (stack gone wild), but
removing -O1 made decent dumps/traces.
Of course I shouldn't have been debugging things with -Wl,-O1 in the
first place but oh well :+)
/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-07-09 Thread Doug Goldstein

Luca Barbato wrote:

Fabian Groffen wrote:

On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:

How can you easily revert it in a profile?

You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.


How elegant... but I guess I'll have no choice.


Shouldn't possible have a subprofile with compiler/linker specifics 
and move there non sharable stuff and keep base leaner?


lu


I'm just going to commit this to default/linux in about 20 minutes -Wl,-O1
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-07-09 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-07-09 15:45:15 Doug Goldstein napisał(a):
 Luca Barbato wrote:
  Fabian Groffen wrote:
  On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
  How can you easily revert it in a profile?
  You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.
 
  How elegant... but I guess I'll have no choice.
 
  Shouldn't possible have a subprofile with compiler/linker specifics 
  and move there non sharable stuff and keep base leaner?
 
  lu
 
 I'm just going to commit this to default/linux in about 20 minutes -Wl,-O1

Cardoe informed me that he planned to add --hash-style=gnu and --sort-common
to default LDFLAGS in the future.

Does anybody know any packages / architectures (except mips) which have any
problems with these flags?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-07-03 Thread Luca Barbato

Fabian Groffen wrote:

On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:

How can you easily revert it in a profile?

You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.


How elegant... but I guess I'll have no choice.


Shouldn't possible have a subprofile with compiler/linker specifics and 
move there non sharable stuff and keep base leaner?


lu

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-30 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-06-2008 20:28:39 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On 23:15 Sun 29 Jun , Fabian Groffen wrote:
  On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
   On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
 I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
 following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.

 -O1 enables some basic optimizations.
   
At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
already suggesting this quite a while ago.
   
   imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base
  
  I prefer not.  Please only on profiles that use GNU binutils as linker.
 
 That's the rule, not the exception, so I think that profiles with 
 non-gnu linkers should revert it.

In the current world of gentoo-x86 it is the rule.  But what will you do
once Sun Studio becomes open source, and you want to allow people that
like to have better performance to use it?  What if Gentoo Prefix ever
gets merged back into gentoo-x86?

How can you easily revert it in a profile?  Using strip-ldflags alike?
That feels nasty to me.  If it is trivial to remove it again,
considering there may be more in LDFLAGS, then it is less of a problem
to me.  Maybe there is such a way, and I just missed it.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-30 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-06-30 10:57:21 Fabian Groffen napisał(a):
 On 29-06-2008 20:28:39 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  On 23:15 Sun 29 Jun , Fabian Groffen wrote:
   On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
  I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
  following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.
 
  -O1 enables some basic optimizations.

 At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
 already suggesting this quite a while ago.

imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base
   
   I prefer not.  Please only on profiles that use GNU binutils as linker.
  
  That's the rule, not the exception, so I think that profiles with 
  non-gnu linkers should revert it.
 
 In the current world of gentoo-x86 it is the rule.  But what will you do
 once Sun Studio becomes open source, and you want to allow people that
 like to have better performance to use it?  What if Gentoo Prefix ever
 gets merged back into gentoo-x86?
 
 How can you easily revert it in a profile?

You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-30 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
  How can you easily revert it in a profile?
 
 You can set LDFLAGS= in a subprofiles's make.defaults.

How elegant... but I guess I'll have no choice.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-30 Thread Petteri Räty

Mike Frysinger kirjoitti:

On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:

I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.

-O1 enables some basic optimizations.

At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
already suggesting this quite a while ago.


imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base
-mike


So seems like we should just do it (tm).

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
  I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
  following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.
 
  -O1 enables some basic optimizations.

 At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
 already suggesting this quite a while ago.

imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
  Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
   I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
   following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.
  
   -O1 enables some basic optimizations.
 
  At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
  already suggesting this quite a while ago.
 
 imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base

I prefer not.  Please only on profiles that use GNU binutils as linker.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:15 Sun 29 Jun , Fabian Groffen wrote:
 On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote:
   Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:
I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the
following flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.
   
-O1 enables some basic optimizations.
  
   At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was
   already suggesting this quite a while ago.
  
  imo -Wl,-O1 should go into base
 
 I prefer not.  Please only on profiles that use GNU binutils as linker.

That's the rule, not the exception, so I think that profiles with 
non-gnu linkers should revert it.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-28 Thread Petteri Räty

Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti:

I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following
flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.

-O1 enables some basic optimizations.



At least adding -O1 should not be problematic. I think vapier was 
already suggesting this quite a while ago.


Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-24 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following
flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.

-O1 enables some basic optimizations.
--hash-style=gnu causes that ld creates only new GNU-style hash tables.
--sort-common causes that ld sorts the common symbols by size when it places
them in the appropriate output sections.

These options don't cause any problems, so they should be less controversial
than --as-needed.
(These options don't conflict with --as-needed, so --as-needed can be still
added to default LDFLAGS, but this thread isn't about --as-needed.)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+=-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common

2008-06-24 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 24-06-2008 14:15:10 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
 I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the following
 flags: -Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common.
 
 -O1 enables some basic optimizations.
 --hash-style=gnu causes that ld creates only new GNU-style hash tables.
 --sort-common causes that ld sorts the common symbols by size when it places
 them in the appropriate output sections.
 
 These options don't cause any problems, so they should be less controversial
 than --as-needed.
 (These options don't conflict with --as-needed, so --as-needed can be still
 added to default LDFLAGS, but this thread isn't about --as-needed.)

as long as it doesn't go in /base, but in the linux/freebsd profiles
instead, it's fine with me.


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