[gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be 
global. These are now local USE flags.

Do you agree to change their globalness?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Chris White
On Thursday 31 August 2006 07:24, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
 I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be
 global. These are now local USE flags.

Gotta say why along with that.


 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Steve Dibb

Chris White wrote:

On Thursday 31 August 2006 07:24, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
  

I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be
global. These are now local USE flags.



Gotta say why along with that.


Local use flags:

cairo: 15
logrotate: 8
openexr: 11
udev: 6
vnc: 6

And the descriptions seem to be pretty much the same in all of them from 
use.local.desc


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Simon Stelling
Steve Dibb wrote:
 And the descriptions seem to be pretty much the same in all of them from
 use.local.desc

I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package.

About the udev, there's one package that doesn't share the effect:

sys-apps/pcmciautils:udev - Install as an udev helper instead of a
hotplug helper

Which is different from the other 5 Enable udev rules file installation.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:58, Simon Stelling wrote:
 I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
 shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package.

Right. Open a bug and cc involved maintainers. This is the way it works - 
maybe slowly, but it does. We see people come and go and no one has the time 
to assure to have read all threads in this list. A bug stays open as long as 
it is relevant.

 About the udev, there's one package that doesn't share the effect:

 sys-apps/pcmciautils:udev - Install as an udev helper instead of a
 hotplug helper

 Which is different from the other 5 Enable udev rules file installation.

Two packages. Question is, if there is an argument not to install udev rules.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Alin Nastac
Simon Stelling wrote:
 I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
 shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package.
   
Please look at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/35754 .

I said it once, I'm saying again: squid need this USE flag.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:20 +0200 Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
| shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package.

No we didn't. It's another file in /etc, which is entirely different
from another file not in /etc.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

2006-08-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Thu Aug 31 2006, 10:37:21AM CDT]
 On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:20 +0200 Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
 | shouldn't exist at all because those files add 4kb to the package.
 
 No we didn't. It's another file in /etc, which is entirely different
 from another file not in /etc.

My recollection was that the argument against having a logrotate USE
flag that meant please install a logrotate script was that it was
unnecessary since the user could just mask out /etc/logrotate.d
instead (using INSTALL_MASK) if those scripts weren't desired.

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