Re: [gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-11-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-11-2014 a las 14:12 +0300, Alexander Tsoy escribió:
> В Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:53:56 +0100
> Pacho Ramos  пишет:
> 
> > El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 10:38 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > > El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 00:13 +0400, Alexander Tsoy escribió:
> > > [...]
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
> > > > > people will want -> keyring support.
> > > > 
> > > > Some apps have optional support for both kwallet and gnome-keyring
> > > > (e.g. darktable, subversion). So I'm not sure you can leave a single
> > > > USE flag.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe for them we could have an exception or review them as they also
> > > look to be a bit strange. For example, for concrete case of subversion
> > > looks like it's using gnome-keyring and "kde", that looks a bit
> > > inconsistent to me. We could use "gnome" and "kde" for example :/. Or
> > > have a "keyring" USE flag and, then "gnome" and "kde" behind that USE
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > any updates on this? :)
> > 
> 
> I don't know anything about kwallet, but gnome-keyring is useful
> outside of GNOME. So I don't like the idea of hiding gnome-keyring
> behind "gnome" use flag.
> 

But people wanting keyring support in gnome will know need to remember
to also enable "libsecret" (that will replace gnome-keyring at some
point). That is the main reason for suggesting the change. That and also
that "kde" USE flag is being used for keyring support in KDE
environment, and that can look a bit incoherent.

Having a more general "keyring" USE flag people could enable and, for
cases with multiple support, allow to switch between providers on KDE
and GNOME depending on their "kde" "gnome" USE flags looks to solve it
for me :/





Re: [gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-11-13 Thread Alexander Tsoy
В Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:53:56 +0100
Pacho Ramos  пишет:

> El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 10:38 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 00:13 +0400, Alexander Tsoy escribió:
> > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
> > > > people will want -> keyring support.
> > > 
> > > Some apps have optional support for both kwallet and gnome-keyring
> > > (e.g. darktable, subversion). So I'm not sure you can leave a single
> > > USE flag.
> > > 
> > 
> > Maybe for them we could have an exception or review them as they also
> > look to be a bit strange. For example, for concrete case of subversion
> > looks like it's using gnome-keyring and "kde", that looks a bit
> > inconsistent to me. We could use "gnome" and "kde" for example :/. Or
> > have a "keyring" USE flag and, then "gnome" and "kde" behind that USE
> > 
> > 
> 
> any updates on this? :)
> 

I don't know anything about kwallet, but gnome-keyring is useful
outside of GNOME. So I don't like the idea of hiding gnome-keyring
behind "gnome" use flag.

-- 
Alexander Tsoy



Re: [gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-11-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 10:38 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 00:13 +0400, Alexander Tsoy escribió:
> [...]
> > > 
> > > I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
> > > people will want -> keyring support.
> > 
> > Some apps have optional support for both kwallet and gnome-keyring
> > (e.g. darktable, subversion). So I'm not sure you can leave a single
> > USE flag.
> > 
> 
> Maybe for them we could have an exception or review them as they also
> look to be a bit strange. For example, for concrete case of subversion
> looks like it's using gnome-keyring and "kde", that looks a bit
> inconsistent to me. We could use "gnome" and "kde" for example :/. Or
> have a "keyring" USE flag and, then "gnome" and "kde" behind that USE
> 
> 

any updates on this? :)






Re: [gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 12-10-2014 a las 00:13 +0400, Alexander Tsoy escribió:
[...]
> > 
> > I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
> > people will want -> keyring support.
> 
> Some apps have optional support for both kwallet and gnome-keyring
> (e.g. darktable, subversion). So I'm not sure you can leave a single
> USE flag.
> 

Maybe for them we could have an exception or review them as they also
look to be a bit strange. For example, for concrete case of subversion
looks like it's using gnome-keyring and "kde", that looks a bit
inconsistent to me. We could use "gnome" and "kde" for example :/. Or
have a "keyring" USE flag and, then "gnome" and "kde" behind that USE




Re: [gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Tsoy
В Sat, 11 Oct 2014 17:02:20 +0200
Pacho Ramos  пишет:

> Hello
> 
> I am wondering about current status of keyring related USE flags:
> - gnome-keyring USE is listed as global USE
> - libsecret is a local USE
> - wallet is local (only used by one package now)

Err.. wallet USE flag is completely unrelated. This wallet is for
bitcoins, it's not a keyring for passwords. :)

There are also "gnome" and "kde" USE flags. Note that the following
command doesn't catch multiline USE-conditional dependencies.

$ find . -type f -name "*.ebuild" -exec egrep -e 'kde\?.*kwallet' -e 
'gnome\?.*gnome-keyring' '{}' \+
./dev-vcs/subversion/subversion-1.8.9.ebuild:   kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )
./dev-vcs/subversion/subversion-1.8.10.ebuild:  kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )
./dev-vcs/subversion/subversion-1.7.18.ebuild:  kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )
./media-gfx/darktable/darktable-1.2.3.ebuild:   kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )"
./media-gfx/darktable/darktable-1.4.1-r1.ebuild:kde? ( 
kde-base/kwalletd )"
./media-gfx/darktable/darktable-1.4.2.ebuild:   kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )"
./media-gfx/darktable/darktable-1.4.ebuild: kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )"
./media-gfx/darktable/darktable-.ebuild:kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd )"
./media-sound/cantata/cantata-1.3.3.ebuild: kde? ( $(add_kdebase_dep 
kwalletd) )
./media-sound/cantata/cantata-1.3.4.ebuild: kde? ( $(add_kdebase_dep 
kwalletd) )
./net-fs/smbnetfs/smbnetfs-0.5.3a.ebuild:   gnome? ( 
gnome-base/gnome-keyring:= )"
./net-fs/smbnetfs/smbnetfs-0.5.3b.ebuild:   gnome? ( 
gnome-base/gnome-keyring:= )"
./net-im/gajim/gajim-0.15.4.ebuild: gnome? ( gnome-keyring )"
./net-im/gajim/gajim-0.15.4.ebuild: kde? ( kde-base/kwalletmanager )
./net-im/gajim/gajim-0.16.ebuild:   gnome? ( gnome-keyring )"
./net-im/gajim/gajim-0.16.ebuild:   kde? ( kde-base/kwalletmanager )
./www-client/qupzilla/qupzilla-1.6.5.ebuild:kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd:4 )"
./www-client/qupzilla/qupzilla-1.6.6.ebuild:kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd:4 )"
./www-client/qupzilla/qupzilla-1.8.0.ebuild:kde? ( kde-base/kwalletd:4 )

> 
> I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
> people will want -> keyring support.

Some apps have optional support for both kwallet and gnome-keyring
(e.g. darktable, subversion). So I'm not sure you can leave a single
USE flag.

> 
> What do you think? I am not sure what kind of USE flags are other
> desktops but Gnome/MATE using :S
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 

-- 
Alexander Tsoy



[gentoo-dev] Unify keyring related USE flags

2014-10-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello

I am wondering about current status of keyring related USE flags:
- gnome-keyring USE is listed as global USE
- libsecret is a local USE
- wallet is local (only used by one package now)

I think we should simply have a "keyring" USE flag to enable what most
people will want -> keyring support.

What do you think? I am not sure what kind of USE flags are other
desktops but Gnome/MATE using :S

Thanks a lot