Re: [gentoo-dev] Unstabling a package

2012-02-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Jeff Horelick  wrote:
> While i'm not willing to maintain mythtv myself (as I don't use it
> (anymore)) or join the herd, what about contacting upstream as they
> already have their own overlay [1] and see if they'd like to "proxy
> maintain" the official Gentoo packages, sort of.
>

We do generally coordinate with them, and per my blog I refer users
upstream if they want more bleeding-edge experiences.  The upstream
overlay tends to be ahead in terms of releases, and the official
Gentoo ebuilds tend to be ahead in terms of formal QA compliance and
packaging-related bugs, deps, etc.  We do share, however.  The biggest
difference right now between the two is that the Gentoo ebuilds are no
longer using the eclass until we can get rid of 0.23 and update the
eclass.

I do plan to maintain a stable mythtv branch, whether in portage or in
an overlay regardless.

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] Unstabling a package

2012-02-23 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 19 February 2012 21:46, Doug Goldstein  wrote:
> Any specific procedure to unstable a package? Specifically MythTV.
> While there's a lot of user interest in the package, there's just not
> enough dev help with the package to really keep it up to snuff to what
> could be considered stable. Its woefully behind and I'd just be
> happier to drop the current stable and bump everything as unstable.
>
> --
> Doug Goldstein
>

While i'm not willing to maintain mythtv myself (as I don't use it
(anymore)) or join the herd, what about contacting upstream as they
already have their own overlay [1] and see if they'd like to "proxy
maintain" the official Gentoo packages, sort of.

[1] https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/tree/master/Gentoo

JD



Re: [gentoo-dev] Unstabling a package

2012-02-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Doug Goldstein  wrote:
> Any specific procedure to unstable a package? Specifically MythTV.
> While there's a lot of user interest in the package, there's just not
> enough dev help with the package to really keep it up to snuff to what
> could be considered stable. Its woefully behind...

The current unstable package for mythtv was the upstream stable
version only a few weeks ago.  I was contemplating stabilizing it,
although with 0.24.2 out it might make more sense to target that
version.  The current stable version should certainly be removed ASAP
- it contains numerous bugs and some QA issues that have been fixed in
the unstable version.  The only thing the stable version has going for
it is support for more plugins.

If I get a long weekend I might try upgrading to 0.24.2 and getting
that into portage (assuming nobody else beats me to it).
Unfortunately my only mythtv system is essentially a production
system, so I can't really have it down for any length of time.

If we do make mythtv unstable I'd prefer that we not drop versions too
quickly.  If somebody else is able to keep up with the bleeding-edge
versions more power to them, but if the consensus is that the older
versions have to go most likely I'd just start maintaining my own
overlay and abandon the one in portage.  I can really only do a
serious version bump maybe 2-3 times per year at most.

I'm not convinced that going completely unstable is really going to
solve anything, however.  I'd rather have a core of stable
functionality than something bleeding-edge for something like mythtv.
Then again, that might just be personal preference.

Rich



[gentoo-dev] Unstabling a package

2012-02-19 Thread Doug Goldstein
Any specific procedure to unstable a package? Specifically MythTV.
While there's a lot of user interest in the package, there's just not
enough dev help with the package to really keep it up to snuff to what
could be considered stable. Its woefully behind and I'd just be
happier to drop the current stable and bump everything as unstable.

-- 
Doug Goldstein