Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> If you are aware about any other know attacks, please share. > > Replay attacks, mentioned in the RFC (or Google). These could be > mitigated, but no one has bothered. The OCSP response is signed. The signature contains a time stamp. If your clock is right, replay

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 02:11 PM, Thomas D. wrote: > > This is going OT but I cannot leave this statement uncommented, > because from my knowledge this is wrong/you are hiding important > information everyone should know about: I figure everyone here is smart

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, mingdao wrote: > Now, if any one of us turned off OCSP as Michael suggested, what should one do > after turning it back on? Could there now be certificates trusted there which > should not be? Well, only your current browser session can be affected. For Firefox: History -> Clear Recent His

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread mingdao
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:11:52PM +0100, Thomas D. wrote: > Hi, > > Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> Validation > > > > The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, > > Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> Validation > > The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which is cute > when you consider its purpose. > > Moreover, it sends the addres

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/05/2013 10:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote: >> >> Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue: >> >> http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please >> >> and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unkno

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread mingdao
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 11:39:10AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, > > Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Encryption -> Validation > > The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which is cute > when you consider its pur

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote: > > Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue: > > http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please > > and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert). > You should disable OCSP anyway. In Fire

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:49:15 -0600 mingdao wrote: > and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert). The certificate expired; I guess it'll be fixed soon, as he gets back. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Pub

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread mingdao
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 09:30:07PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are > misusing "need net" in their OpenRC init scripts [1]. > > "need net" should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus > and breaks things

[gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-04 Thread William Hubbs
All, I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are misusing "need net" in their OpenRC init scripts [1]. "need net" should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus and breaks things. I also question the value of "use net", because the same thinking applies,