Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:39:40 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Oct 2015 19:01, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:34:22 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > - should the packages list be in a new packages.default, or > > > should we create a new set to hold it,

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:15:42 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Zac Medico > wrote: > > On 10/15/2015 02:51 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > > >> The only change in moving it to @profile is the warning. > > > > What's the point

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > if it's just used by catalyst to pre-seed world then indeed pms > doesn't have anything to do with it, but if it's meant to be some set > that profiles add to 'world' set dynamically, then interoperability is >

[gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

background: everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial stage tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be completely sparse. we've got a bug for this topic: https://bugs.gentoo.org/393445 items to sort out: - should the list of packages be in catalyst or

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/15 3:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: In portage, @world = @profile + @selected + @system, which means that @profile is protected from depclean since it's a part of @world. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532224 I thought so but wasn't sure and was about to test. Both @system

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 01:45 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> What's probably desired is to create a stage3 profile which adds >> whatever extra stuff you want to @system, and to use the stage3 profile >> for to build stage3. After the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 15 Oct 2015 12:15, Zac Medico wrote: > On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > background: > > everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial stage > > tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be completely > > sparse. we've got a bug for this

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > What's probably desired is to create a stage3 profile which adds > whatever extra stuff you want to @system, and to use the stage3 profile > for to build stage3. After the stage3 is built, catalyst could set some > other

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 10/15/2015 02:03 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> Given the goals, having catalyst seed /var/lib/portage/world seems >>> pretty reasonable to me. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 12:29 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 15/10/15 03:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> background: everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people >>> want the initial stage tarball that we release and you install >>> Gentoo from to not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > Given the goals, having catalyst seed /var/lib/portage/world seems > pretty reasonable to me. Then the question becomes how. Does it diff @profile between the two profiles and put the extra stuff in @selected? Or, does

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 02:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Oct 2015 12:15, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> background: >>> everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial stage >>> tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 01:29 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 10/15/15 4:14 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 10/15/2015 01:06 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >>> On 10/15/15 3:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: In portage, @world = @profile + @selected + @system, which means that @profile is protected from

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 02:51 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 10/15/15 5:20 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 10/15/2015 02:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >> so if iputils is in @profile, and i do: >> emerge -C iputils >> i don't get the ugly warning about it being in @system, but if i do: >> emerge

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 01:06 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 10/15/15 3:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> >> In portage, @world = @profile + @selected + @system, which means that >> @profile is protected from depclean since it's a part of @world. >> >> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532224 > > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/15 4:14 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 10/15/2015 01:06 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 10/15/15 3:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: In portage, @world = @profile + @selected + @system, which means that @profile is protected from depclean since it's a part of @world. [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 10/15/2015 02:51 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> The only change in moving it to @profile is the warning. > > What's the point of getting rid of the warning if the package is going > to get pulled back in on the next

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/15 6:00 PM, Zac Medico wrote: . The last time I checked, @system was not used for stage1. Catalyst used package.build instead. Has that changed? Sorry, yes it is. I forgot how that file was interpreted. I was thinking when I wrote my previous emails that it contained a list of

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 02:03 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> Given the goals, having catalyst seed /var/lib/portage/world seems >> pretty reasonable to me. > > Then the question becomes how. Does it diff @profile between the two >

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

For some reason I didn't receive the original email from Mike. I'll answer via Rich's email. Hopefully I won't be misinterpreting anything. On 10/15/15 1:43 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: items to sort out: - should the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/15 5:20 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 10/15/2015 02:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: so if iputils is in @profile, and i do: emerge -C iputils i don't get the ugly warning about it being in @system, but if i do: emerge @world iputils comes back. i think that's OK actually since

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:34:22 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > background: > everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial > stage tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be > completely sparse. we've got a bug for this topic: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 15 Oct 2015 19:01, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:34:22 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > - should the packages list be in a new packages.default, or should we > > create a new set to hold it, or should we just go with @profile ? > > -> @profile has the advantage of already

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/10/15 03:15 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> background: everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people >> want the initial stage tarball that we release and you install >> Gentoo from to not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > background: > everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial stage > tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be completely > sparse. we've got a bug for this topic: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/393445 > > items

Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > items to sort out: > - should the list of packages be in catalyst or profile-stacked content > -> imo it should be entirely in the profile ++ This would be really nice to combine with mix-ins so that instead of