Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults should live in the ebuild, not the profile I agree that putting per-package defaults in ebuilds is

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some flags yes ... for others, i dislike that idea for the exact same reason for the other profile-based suggestions: these defaults should

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/15, Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:53:08 +0200 Thomas de Grenier de Latour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER that have been chosen. Even keeping the -* in make.conf case appart (obviously

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: My point is just that it doesn't work that well with the USE_ORDER that have been chosen. Even keeping the -* in make.conf case appart (obviously my opinion on how it should behave was not widely shared, i can live with that), there is

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: the day you switch from IUSE=nocxx to IUSE=+cxx, will you remember that, as a consequence, you have to fix hardened/2.6/minimal profile?

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 July 2007, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2007-07-15 21:22:07 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): On Sunday 15 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: the day you switch from IUSE=nocxx to IUSE=+cxx, will you remember that, as a consequence, you have to fix

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they really offer any

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Petteri Räty wrote: Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on the grounds that it's unnecessary and

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thilo Bangert
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we could finally kick all the no* USE flags. USE flags are use flags - they determine what should be used. not what should not be used... Because of the way USE flags stack in Portage (the USE_ORDER variable), IUSE defaults are not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On 2007/07/10, Thilo Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - we could finally kick all the no* USE flags. USE flags are use flags - they determine what should be used. not what should not be used... Because of the way USE flags stack

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the no* flags were introduced more to address default behavior than the -* case, so yes we can kick many of the no* USE flags To address only the default behavior, adding foo to the profile USE instead of using a nofoo flag would have

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On 2007/07/10, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the no* flags were introduced more to address default behavior than the -* case, so yes we can kick many of the no* USE flags To address only the default behavior, adding foo

Re: [gentoo-dev] iuse defaults example

2007-07-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:26:19PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for IUSE defaults... There were objections against that feature on the grounds that it's unnecessary and increased maintenance. Do they really offer any benefit over