Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-10 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Matt Turner schrieb: I think this is doable, and I think I have a good reason for wanting to be able to do it. I have no idea why Tommy[D] or AxS want to do it. I've never discussed my plans with them. The main reason seems indeed being able to build 32 bit software where a 32 bit toolchain

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-10 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:28 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit userland with 64bit toolchain (via, say, setting ABI_X86=32 in make.conf) using the

[gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done for some packages. This will break e.g. for users who target 64bit toolchain and 32bit userland, since those would not get any binaries from building for

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done for some packages. This will break e.g. for users who target 64bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done for some packages. This will break e.g. for users who target 64bit toolchain

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:02:10 -0400 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: no, we won't be building useless stuff to throw it away one minute later, thanks for the bloat. and i'm not even talking about the fact that this wont work unless you introduce bloated deps by requiring unneeded

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done for some packages. This will break e.g. for users

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): As the topic

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 12:09 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz.

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary building for other ABIs,

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:49:21 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit userland with 64bit toolchain (via, say, setting ABI_X86=32 in make.conf) using the eclasses is just outright not ever going to happen? Never mind not supporting it, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: When when you have done it, try e.g. this: ABI_X86=32 emerge --oneshot =libjpeg-turbo-1.3.0-r2 that's why default abi is in use.force; if this is allowed and really disables abi_x86_64 on a stock amd64 profile I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:09 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: When when you have done it, try e.g. this: ABI_X86=32 emerge --oneshot =libjpeg-turbo-1.3.0-r2 that's why default abi is

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:06 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:49:21 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit userland with 64bit toolchain (via, say, setting ABI_X86=32 in make.conf) using the

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:14:34 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:06 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:49:21 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please dont disable binary

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:14:07 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:09 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: When when you have done it, try e.g. this:

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:23:50 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the topic

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:28 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:14:07 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:09 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:59

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:36:31 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:28 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:14:07 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 13:09:57 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:41:59 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: When when you have done it, try e.g. this: ABI_X86=32 emerge --oneshot =libjpeg-turbo-1.3.0-r2 that's why default abi is in

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 12:49:21 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 12:09 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:54:01 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 19:23:50 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 19:23:50 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Alexis Ballier schrieb: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: As the

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:41 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:36:31 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/08/13 01:28 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:14:07

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:18:29 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't want to test the binaries, I want to test the build/install process. But this sub-thread is neither here nor there to the main issue. Then there is no point in testing an invalid process consisting of

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib conversion: Please keep building binaries for all target ABIs

2013-08-09 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: ...so, allowing for the ability of 32bit userland with 64bit toolchain (via, say, setting ABI_X86=32 in make.conf) using the eclasses is just outright not ever going to happen? Never mind not supporting it, but essentially