Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
Norberto Bensa wrote: Excuse me for thread hijack. Would it make sense to add (for example): kde-games gnome-games I'm afraid not. ? Or the other way around. Move kde-base/kmail to mail-client/kmail ? not sure how useful could be but could make more sense even if right now kde-base contains everything comes from the main kde distribution. What about both ways using symlinks: kde-games/ksudoku - games-puzzle/ksudoku ? No symlinks and no aliases please. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo Council Member Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: Norberto Bensa wrote: What about both ways using symlinks: kde-games/ksudoku - games-puzzle/ksudoku ? No symlinks and no aliases please. Ok. My idea, if someone is wondering, was asnwer the questions: what email clients are available? and which one is for kde? A simple ls -l /usr/portage/mail-client/ would show which ones. I thought it could be useful. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
On Monday 02 of February 2009 22:15:53 Luca Barbato wrote: not sure how useful could be but could make more sense even if right now kde-base contains everything comes from the main kde distribution. To be more specific, kde-base contains everything (and only) that is distributed as KDE stable release (no extragear included). And it causes confusion as when packages are dropped from KDE release schedule (so they usually go back to extragear to release when they want), one needs to look to new place for them (in kde-misc or somewhere else). Actually categories are bad idea imho. I was thinking, maybe it would be possible to drop categories completely in the future (maybe keeping symlinks for compatibility and to ease migration) and to put *all* packages in one directory - that would require making all names unique of course. Categorization could be provided for user/search tools as tag clouds being defined in metadata.xml as vector of tag:weight values where tag would be some word from defined dictionary (word like mail client kde dns or sth) and weight - real value [0,1] defining how relevant is that tag. For compatibility's sake symlinks could be provided, in.ex. sys-devel/gcc - all/gcc. But that's just an off-topic. -- regards MM -- Nie boj sie przyszlosci! Zapytaj wrozke http://link.interia.pl/f2049
Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 19:58 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 01/02/2009 18:32, Norberto Bensa a écrit : Excuse me for thread hijack. Would it make sense to add (for example): gnome-games gnome-games is already the name of a package that contains all official GNOME games. Only a handful are also released and packaged separately. Useless for us IMHO. That said, I'm still threatening to split gnome-games up to individual packages one rainy day. But if that goes through (time-wise and has team agreement), the individual games would be in the suitable games-* category (games-arcade, games-board, etc) with a gnome-extra/gnome-games still in place (one day gnome-base/) - newer versions being meta packages pulling in the individual official games. And not in a gnome-games/ category. Then you can find gnome-games meta package from gnome-*/ category and individual games in their suitable category (glchess is a cool board game, etc).. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
Excuse me for thread hijack. Would it make sense to add (for example): kde-games gnome-games ? Or the other way around. Move kde-base/kmail to mail-client/kmail ? What about both ways using symlinks: kde-games/ksudoku - games-puzzle/ksudoku ? Thanks, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
Norberto Bensa wrote: Excuse me for thread hijack. Would it make sense to add (for example): kde-games gnome-games ? Or the other way around. Move kde-base/kmail to mail-client/kmail ? What about both ways using symlinks: kde-games/ksudoku - games-puzzle/ksudoku ? Thanks, Norberto Personally I prefer all the official kde package in kde-base - it allows me to quickly know that this given package is part of the official KDE package set. I don't see a need for kde-games - it's pretty clear from the descriptions which of the kde-base packages are games, and for the reason stated above I don't like the idea of mixing official and unofficial packages. I suspect symlinks are likely to cause issues (what happens if you try to install both kde-games/ksudoku and games-puzzle/ksudoku?) and as far as I know are never used in the package tree. Package moves like this are occasionally going to happen, no matter how you structure the repository. The only real question here is whether this is a package move (in which case, I believe, portage goes through and updates /etc/portage/package.*, world and possibly custom sets contents automatically) or just a package mask (in which case it's up to the user to do all those updates) AllenJB
Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)
Le 01/02/2009 18:32, Norberto Bensa a écrit : Excuse me for thread hijack. Would it make sense to add (for example): gnome-games gnome-games is already the name of a package that contains all official GNOME games. Only a handful are also released and packaged separately. Useless for us IMHO. Cheers, Rémi
