Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Josh Saddler wrote:

 It would only be called humanities if it was also trying to include
 gramps (geneology) with the other 7 packages which are explicitly
 religious in nature. As beandog has already said, gramps has been
 removed from the herd.

I had missed that part in the other threads. My bad.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-29 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:25:46 -0700,
Josh Saddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Nathan Smith wrote:
  On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Josh Sled wrote:
 
   If that's the case, might not humanities be a better name?
 
  s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me.
 
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  Indeed.  Even if we wanted a herd specific to religion, theology is
  not the best choice since I've yet to conceive of how a program can do
  theology.  Certain types of programs can inform one's theology
  (textual studies programs based on SWORD are a good example of this),
  but the same programs have various other uses.  Humanities is a good
  enough description.
  
 
 It would only be called humanities if it was also trying to include
 gramps (geneology) with the other 7 packages which are explicitly
 religious in nature. As beandog has already said, gramps has been
 removed from the herd. religion or theology is clearly the most
 appropriate category of the remaining packages. There's no need to
 rename the herd to humanities just because some folks are
 uncomfortable with topics and packages relating to religion.
 
 Think about your local library (Dewey decimal system) -- you don't find
 Bible study guides in the humanities/sociology (300s, 400s, 600s, 800s
 and possibly 900s (history))...you find it in 100s and 200s. The
 sections on religion and philosophy. the remaining 7 packages are
 clearly religious in nature. Don't try to label them anything else, just
 because you ain't comfortable with it or don't like 'em.
 

I agree with you. And genealogy is somewhere in the sciences or human sciences
section.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-28 Thread Rémi Cardona
Josh Sled wrote:

 If that's the case, might not humanities be a better name?

s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-28 Thread Nathan Smith

On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Josh Sled wrote:

 If that's the case, might not humanities be a better name?

s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me.

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Indeed.  Even if we wanted a herd specific to religion, theology is
not the best choice since I've yet to conceive of how a program can do
theology.  Certain types of programs can inform one's theology
(textual studies programs based on SWORD are a good example of this),
but the same programs have various other uses.  Humanities is a good
enough description.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Nathan Smith wrote:
 On 4/28/07, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Josh Sled wrote:

  If that's the case, might not humanities be a better name?

 s/theology/humanities/ sounds good. +1 from me.

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 Indeed.  Even if we wanted a herd specific to religion, theology is
 not the best choice since I've yet to conceive of how a program can do
 theology.  Certain types of programs can inform one's theology
 (textual studies programs based on SWORD are a good example of this),
 but the same programs have various other uses.  Humanities is a good
 enough description.
 

It would only be called humanities if it was also trying to include
gramps (geneology) with the other 7 packages which are explicitly
religious in nature. As beandog has already said, gramps has been
removed from the herd. religion or theology is clearly the most
appropriate category of the remaining packages. There's no need to
rename the herd to humanities just because some folks are
uncomfortable with topics and packages relating to religion.

Think about your local library (Dewey decimal system) -- you don't find
Bible study guides in the humanities/sociology (300s, 400s, 600s, 800s
and possibly 900s (history))...you find it in 100s and 200s. The
sections on religion and philosophy. the remaining 7 packages are
clearly religious in nature. Don't try to label them anything else, just
because you ain't comfortable with it or don't like 'em.

At least, that's my interpretation of most of the replies to this thread
so far.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Matti Bickel
Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I shall contemplate fiercely on building my own herd of nightly
 bloodsuckers, zombies and cannibals. I don't know whether to call it
 'postnuclear-vampirism' or just plain 'satanism' yet.

I'm interested. Will you bring back xmms? Will your program include
last-rites for packages you convert over from maintainer-needed?

Oh, and about that theology herd - i do find 'theology' a kinda narrow
naming, but that's just me.
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[PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 07:54:00AM +0200, Steffen Brumm wrote:
 and darwin is satan, other beliefs than christianity - death penalty, fight 
 the sciences, womans have to go behind the cooker or into the open flame, 
 only conservapedia is real,...

This certainly is an interesting first post to the Gentoo development
list, not sure if it's pure trolling or just a joke gone bad.
In any way, this is not exactly Gentoo development related and not
really CoC [1] compliant. Please read the CoC before posting again.

Everyone else, please don't reply to this subthread as well for the
same reasons.

cheers,
Wernfried

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:56:44 +0200
Matti Bickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I shall contemplate fiercely on building my own herd of nightly
  bloodsuckers, zombies and cannibals. I don't know whether to call it
  'postnuclear-vampirism' or just plain 'satanism' yet.
 
 I'm interested. Will you bring back xmms? Will your program include
 last-rites for packages you convert over from maintainer-needed?

Yes, and maybe inhumanities would be a better idea for a herd.
Although converting all the maintainer-needed sounds like vampirism a
lot.

 Oh, and about that theology herd - i do find 'theology' a kinda
 narrow naming, but that's just me.

My point exactly. However, as long as they drive people to coordinate
their work better, I don't care what herds are called. For all I care
you start giving each herd a mascot.


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[gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-26 Thread Steve Dibb
The idea came up a few months ago about creating a 'religion' herd.  I finally 
got around to following through, and with robbat2's help, created the 'theology' 
herd.


The basic description is to take care of packages relating to religion, 
genealogy and humanities in general.


Anyone is of course welcome to join and help out taking care of the packages 
we'll maintain (I'll update metadata shortly), just add yourself to herds.xml


Thanks all

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-26 Thread Josh Sled
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 20:03 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote:
 The idea came up a few months ago about creating a 'religion' herd.  I 
 finally 
 got around to following through, and with robbat2's help, created the 
 'theology' 
 herd.
 
 The basic description is to take care of packages relating to religion, 
 genealogy and humanities in general.

If that's the case, might not humanities be a better name?

E.g., I don't know what genealogy has to do with theology, but I do see
that both relate to the human condition.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-26 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:11:26 -0400
Josh Sled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 E.g., I don't know what genealogy has to do with theology, but I do see
 that both relate to the human condition.

The fact that Adam and Eve will be found at the beginning of every genealogy
graph.

Just kidding, just kidding! (/me runs away, haunted by Darwin's ghost).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-26 Thread Steffen Brumm
Am Freitag, 27. April 2007 06:34:16 schrieb Andrej Kacian:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:11:26 -0400

 Josh Sled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  E.g., I don't know what genealogy has to do with theology, but I do see
  that both relate to the human condition.

 The fact that Adam and Eve will be found at the beginning of every
 genealogy graph.

 Just kidding, just kidding! (/me runs away, haunted by Darwin's ghost).

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and darwin is satan, other beliefs than christianity - death penalty, fight 
the sciences, womans have to go behind the cooker or into the open flame, 
only conservapedia is real,...

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