Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-05-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, the trigger has been pulled so to speak -- the news item is now in the tree. I did not have any links for the last paragraph (the section that referred people to other places for support etc), so I had to remove that. As far as I know, we are moving forward with stabilization on 2011/05/08.

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-30 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2011.04.30 01:34, William Hubbs wrote: [snip] > > Also, this patch doesn't stop baselayout-2 from being installed, so I > do > not know what state it would leave a system in if you ran this and > happened to upgrade baselayout, then reboot without installing > openrc. > > William > > Willi

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-30 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
> I don't remember the details right now, but I remember speaking with > vapier when I first started working on openrc, and he stated that he > felt we should stay away from higher eapis for system packages. > > I don't really remember his reasoning for that right now, but I remember > that is wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:19:50PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:41:35AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: > > Exact results please; the pkg_pretend crap proposed elsewhere (which > > is yet another way to crap up stage builds) frankly sucks. > > > > Mind you I'm just looking

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:41:35AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: > Exact results please; the pkg_pretend crap proposed elsewhere (which > is yet another way to crap up stage builds) frankly sucks. > > Mind you I'm just looking in, but this whole upgrade process really > reads fairly suboptimal to

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 08:58:31PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 01:52:15PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Alex Alexander wrote: > > > > > >> please have a look at the attached patch. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:39:04PM +0200, Lars Wendler wrote: > Am Donnerstag 21 April 2011, 03:12:21 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > > It seems like nobody's really clear on what exactly happens though, > > since I've seen people talking about this *maybe* resulting in an > > unbootable system. Has any

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Alex Alexander
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 01:52:15PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Alex Alexander wrote: > > > >> please have a look at the attached patch. > > > >> -EAPI="1" > >> +EAPI="4" > > > > Shouldn't the ebuild's phase funct

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Alex Alexander wrote: > >> please have a look at the attached patch. > >> -EAPI="1" >> +EAPI="4" > > Shouldn't the ebuild's phase functions be updated from "EAPI 0 style" > to "EAPI 2 style" too? If the goal is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Alex Alexander
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 07:25:12PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Alex Alexander wrote: > > > please have a look at the attached patch. > > > -EAPI="1" > > +EAPI="4" > > Shouldn't the ebuild's phase functions be updated from "EAPI 0 style" > to "EAPI 2 style" too? Yea

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Alex Alexander wrote: > please have a look at the attached patch. > -EAPI="1" > +EAPI="4" Shouldn't the ebuild's phase functions be updated from "EAPI 0 style" to "EAPI 2 style" too? Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Alex Alexander
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:28:03PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 07:21:23 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > Perhaps a future/in-progress EAPI could define a mechanism where an > > ebuild can indicate that a particular update or set of circumstances > > is a system-critical chan

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 07:21:23 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > Perhaps a future/in-progress EAPI could define a mechanism where an > ebuild can indicate that a particular update or set of circumstances > is a system-critical change, and that the package manager should > consequently alert the user and e

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > Someone suggested that we make emerge not work until the news item is > read. There is nothing I can do in openrc to make something like that > happen. It would be something that would require a portage modification. Honestly - I see that as

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
All, here is an updated version of the news item. If there are no objections/corrections/criticisms, this will be committed on 2011/5/1. This includes input from several comments I received on this thread. Someone suggested that we make emerge not work until the news item is read. There is nothi

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-22 Thread Lars Wendler
-- Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) Gentoo package maintainer and bug-wrangler Am Donnerstag 21 April 2011, 03:12:21 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > On 13:32 Thu 14 Apr , Kfir Lavi wrote: > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written > > stuff. > > > > If I do this, I'm sur

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:23:19 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > I have converted all my systems to baselayout-2/openrc now, and on all > of them, the very /last/ message shown after the emerge run is that > "[x] important configuration files [in /etc]" need to be updated. > > I would think that Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:12:21 -0500 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > From a glance over the guide, it wasn't immediately obvious what in > there would result in a broken system. Perhaps it's the "run > dispatch-conf" that's buried in the middle of a paragraph without > enough emphasis? That's particular

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:32 Thu 14 Apr , Kfir Lavi wrote: > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written > stuff. > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. So do > expect people rebooting the machine without checking what your have > wrote. This can be a major he

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Sylvain Alain
2011/4/14 Thomas Beierlein > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200 > Tomá? Chvátal wrote: > > > On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the > > > written stuff. > > > > > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Thomas Beierlein
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200 Tomá? Chvátal wrote: > On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the > > written stuff. > > > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. > > So do expect people reboot

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 14-04-2011 a las 12:51 +0200, Tomá? Chvátal escribió: > On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written stuff. > > > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. > > So do expect people reboot

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Tomá? Chvátal
On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written stuff. > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what your have > wrote. > This can be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > this is the portage news item I am planning on committing to the tree. > > This is based on an earlier version written by Christian Fallhammer. > > If there are no suggestions for additions or corrections, this will be > committed o

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread justin
On 14/04/11 09:21, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 07:30, justin wrote: >> To me, it doesn't makes it totally clear that you screw everything when >> rebooting before following the guide. Perhaps this should be made much >> clearer. > > Huh? > > "After you install these packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-14 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 07:30, justin wrote: > To me, it doesn't makes it totally clear that you screw everything when > rebooting before following the guide. Perhaps this should be made much > clearer. Huh? "After you install these packages, please do not reboot your system until you follow the

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread justin
On 13/04/11 21:56, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > here is the latest update with typos fixed. > > William > To me, it doesn't makes it totally clear that you screw everything when rebooting before following the guide. Perhaps this should be made much clearer. justin signature.asc Descripti

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:41:16PM +0200, "Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 4/13/11 8:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > The baselayout package provides files which all systems must have in > > order to function properly. You are currently using version 1.x, which > > has several issues. The most signi

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread William Hubbs
All, here is the latest update with typos fixed. William Title: Baselayout update Author: Christian Faulhammer Author: William Hubbs Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2011-05-01 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml. It is imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 4/13/11 8:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > The baselayout package provides files which all systems must have in > order to function properly. You are currently using version 1.x, which > has several issues. The most significant of these is that the included > init system is written entirely in bash

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread justin
After you install these packages, please do not reboot your system untill you follow the upgrade guide located at /untill/until/ justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread Thomas Beierlein
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:15:38 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > this is the portage news item I am planning on committing to the tree. > > This is based on an earlier version written by Christian Fallhammer. > > If there are no suggestions for additions or corrections, this will be > commit

[gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

2011-04-13 Thread William Hubbs
All, this is the portage news item I am planning on committing to the tree. This is based on an earlier version written by Christian Fallhammer. If there are no suggestions for additions or corrections, this will be committed on 5/1. Thanks, William Title: Baselayout update Author: Christian