On 30 June 2011 04:47, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so that the
init scripts are optional and whether or
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:58, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
Why can't we just split up functions.sh into /lib/output.sh
we're not changing the file name
containing the init script independent (but often gentoo specific)
output stuff, and have functions.sh source this. Output.sh would be
provided by
On Jun 30, 2011 11:06 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
we're not splitting the source trees. the reasons have already been
detailed in the bug open on the topic.
-mike
I think we're generally aiming for perfection when we should be pragmatic.
The proposed solution isn't ideal,
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so
that the init scripts are optional and
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so
that
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:30:51PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:30, Michał Górny wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote:
Honestly, I think a better solution would be to provide a convenience
function library, independent of OpenRC.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote:
Honestly, I think a better solution would be
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and was
long ago decided as the canonical public entry point for scripts
external to baselayout (as opposed to a path in /sbin/). it isnt
going anywhere, and
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:12, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and was
long ago decided as the canonical public entry point for scripts
external to baselayout (as opposed to a path in
2011/6/28 Olivier Crête:
As long as we have Gentoo-style init scripts in the tree, we will need
these functions to be available. So yes, they should probably be in a
separate package from openrc itself to ease the transition to the bright
systemd future.
systemd is limited (acknowledged by
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:36:05 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and was
long ago decided as the canonical
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29,
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:38, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:36:05 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and was
probably not worth getting into
-mike
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:47:36 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
Both. There's code in Paludis that duplicates a bunch of that stuff
simply because I wasn't sure what I could and couldn't rely upon.
the file should provide the classic e* output funcs that we've all
grown to love,
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:47:36 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
Both. There's code in Paludis that duplicates a bunch of that stuff
simply because I wasn't sure what I could and couldn't rely upon.
the file should provide the classic e* output
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Mike Frysinger wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and
was long ago decided as the canonical public entry point for
scripts external to baselayout (as opposed to a path in
/sbin/).
the file should provide the classic e* output funcs
On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init systems, like systemd, are coming along which completely
replace
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:38:45 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:36:05 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On 06/29/2011 05:08 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init systems, like systemd, are
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
We tolerate the systemd madness as long as it doesn't interfere with
other things.
I'd say that welcome is a better word than tolerate - after all,
Gentoo is about choice. :)
Still, I do agree that we should avoid
В Срд, 29/06/2011 в 07:53 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:47:36 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
Both. There's code in Paludis that duplicates a bunch of that stuff
simply because I wasn't sure what I could and couldn't rely upon.
the file should
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 11:08 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init
On 06/29/11 17:14, Olivier Crête wrote:
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 11:08 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:31:43 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 06/29/11 17:14, Olivier Crête wrote:
Stop polluting the thread with $init vs $init2, please.
-Jeremy
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:14:22 -0400
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
And you also underestimate the amount of momentum that Lennart has
managed to amass behind systemd. I expect that much sooner than you
think, we won't have a choice but to switch to systemd as many core
components will
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 03:38, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Mike Frysinger wrote:
/etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and
was long ago decided as the canonical public entry point for
scripts external to baselayout (as opposed to a path in
/sbin/).
the
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 06:05, Michał Górny wrote:
I'm not sure if it is a good idea to source a script mangling PATH
there.
the mangling makes sure the system paths are present and come first.
it doesnt remove any elements.
it probably could be redone to only prepend elements, but i'm not
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:56:32PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:57, William Hubbs wrote:
The third option is for openrc to not install the
symbolic link at /etc/init.d/functions.sh since the code is actually at
/lib/rc/functions.sh or /libexec/rc/functions.sh on
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:14:22 -0400
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
And you also underestimate the amount of momentum that Lennart has
managed to amass behind systemd. I expect that much sooner than
2011/6/29 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org:
systemd is where the innovation is today and we, Gentoo,
should get on board or be left behind.
Certainly agree that systemd is innovative.
I think this whole thing is becoming a bit moot. The openrc
maintainer is already planning to add use flags to
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:56:32PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:57, William Hubbs wrote:
The third option is for openrc to not install the
symbolic link at /etc/init.d/functions.sh
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so that the
init scripts are optional and whether or not they are installed is
controlled by a use flag which I will
All,
the reason for this email is
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219 and the bugs that
currently depend on it. I'm sure there will be more of those.
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init systems, like
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init systems, like systemd, are coming along which completely
replace sysvinit and do not use openrc's init scripts
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 09:07:12PM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
/lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc.
Other init systems, like systemd, are coming
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:10:42 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
the reason for this email is
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219 and the bugs that
currently depend on it. I'm sure there will be more of those.
The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote:
Honestly, I think a better solution would be to provide a convenience
function library, independent of OpenRC. Sourcing random internal
scripts of a random package is just broken by concept.
except it hasnt been random and has clearly
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote:
Honestly, I think a better solution would be to provide a convenience
function library, independent of OpenRC. Sourcing random internal
scripts of a random package
43 matches
Mail list logo
