Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:08 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > But on slower machines, as I am used to fast ones, I tend to notice the lack > of parallellism during the emerge-phase. > Diego used to point out that lack of parallelism was always a challenge with running a tinderbox. You can have 32 cor

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, September 07, 2014 05:57:57 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 09/07/2014 17:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> As for Parallel builds, do you make make -jX? Or running concurrent > >> emerges in different shells? I wasn't commenting a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 09/07/2014 16:45, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> There's neither nano nor any other specific editor in the system set, >> to start with. There is virtual/editor which I think is the best >> choice, unless we would decide that no editor is needed at al

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/07/2014 17:57, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > As for net-tools itself, I'll see if I can get Fedora's patches to apply to > it and update it. If not, I dunno whether to import their version as a > separate package or as an alternate version (net-tools-2.0?). No point in > ignoring it when there'

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/07/2014 17:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> And thus, I was referring only to @system, not a stage3. I think an editor >> should be in @system, but as much as I like nano, I know the ncurses >> dependency won't sit well with everyone. If @sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > And thus, I was referring only to @system, not a stage3. I think an editor > should be in @system, but as much as I like nano, I know the ncurses > dependency won't sit well with everyone. If @system is supposed to be a > minimal-working sys

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/07/2014 16:45, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014, Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> And thus, I was referring only to @system, not a stage3. I think an >> editor should be in @system, but as much as I like nano, I know the >> ncurses dependency won't sit well with everyone. If @system

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014, Joshua Kinard wrote: > And thus, I was referring only to @system, not a stage3. I think an > editor should be in @system, but as much as I like nano, I know the > ncurses dependency won't sit well with everyone. If @system is > supposed to be a minimal-working system, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/07/2014 16:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> IMHO, I think @system should maintain at least one editor and include >> some kind of networking diagnostic package. > > Why is it important that we not be able to parallel build an editor? Is > i

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote: > IMHO, I think @system should maintain at least one editor and include some > kind of networking diagnostic package. Why is it important that we not be able to parallel build an editor? Is it such a frequent build-time dependency that we woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: trimming the @system set [was: adding sys-apps/iproute2 to the @system set]

2014-09-07 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/05/2014 13:34, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > there is a bug open requesting that we add sys-apps/iproute2 to the > system set [1]. Originally the request was to drop net-tools, but it has > become just adding iproute2. > > If no one objects, I would like to do this sometime in the next 72