Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 27 January 2006 14:42, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > it does ... but in case it cant find a fully qualified strip binary > (CHOST-strip), it will fall back to plain old `strip` Which it certainly can. As long as it doesn't look in /usr/lib/portage/bin to find it. Something like: STRIP="`wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2006 03:17, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2006 19:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:06, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > Sometimes when calling the strip option > > > of install. A strip wrapper prevents this broken behaviour once and for

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 26 January 2006 19:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:06, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > On Thursday 26 January 2006 14:51, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Thursday 26 January 2006 05:43, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > > Another candidate would be the strip binary which m

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:06, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2006 14:51, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 26 January 2006 05:43, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > Another candidate would be the strip binary which might be called > > > by certain makefiles instead of being portag

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 26 January 2006 14:51, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2006 05:43, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Another candidate would be the strip binary which might be called > > by certain makefiles instead of being portage controlled. > > packages should never strip, only portage shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 January 2006 05:43, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > Another candidate would be the strip binary which might be called > by certain makefiles instead of being portage controlled. packages should never strip, only portage should -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 10:22, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 09:54, Grobian wrote: > > It appears that some people > > don't agree with you on changing the assumptions made in the current > > portage tree. > > I'm not going to ask for dropping the assumption,

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-26 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 01:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:48, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the > > answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's > > the only sane way

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 00:14 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > I think the time is mature to ask for another step of Gentoo/ALT > improvement ;) > Currently ebuilds uses a sed syntax that's mostly GNU sed 4 compatible, but > incompatible with BSD sed for instance. This is usually fine as w

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 03:21, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 02:23, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > If there are any hardcoded calls to /usr/bin/sed, it is reasonable for > > you to ask for them to be fixed. For any others, use a wrapper script. > > I think the wra

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 09:54, Grobian wrote: > It appears that some people > don't agree with you on changing the assumptions made in the current > portage tree. I'm not going to ask for dropping the assumption, I'm just asking for making sure that the assumption is actually backed up with

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Grobian
On 25-01-2006 09:19:44 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 06:47, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > Diego was mistaken here ... probably my fault because i lied to him at some > > point on irc, who knows for sure ... at any rate, the sed ebuild does not > > install 'gsed'

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 02:23, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If there are any hardcoded calls to /usr/bin/sed, it is reasonable for > you to ask for them to be fixed. For any others, use a wrapper script. I think the wrapper script idea was turned down by someone from portage IIRC. Anyway it's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-25 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 06:47, Mike Frysinger wrote: > Diego was mistaken here ... probably my fault because i lied to him at some > point on irc, who knows for sure ... at any rate, the sed ebuild does not > install 'gsed' on GNU systems I was pretty sure we decided to go with g-prefixed for

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:16, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 25/01/2006-00:14:13(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types > > > What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's > > present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of > > sed (4.1.4

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 25/01/2006-00:14:13(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types > What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's > present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of sed > (4.1.4; ppc-macos has no problem as the 4.0.9 version uses gsed anyway).

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:17:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | And as there's no current way to fix the invokation of sed from | within xargs or find, I'm not going to ask to change _all_ the calls | of sed, but just the ones done through those two or other scripts and

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 19:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:48, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the > > answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's > > the only sane way to

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 19:13, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:32, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > if you're implying we change all calls from 'sed' to 'gsed' in ebuilds > > then the answer is no from my pov > > Can you at least read all my mails till the end before

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:48, Stephen Bennett wrote: > We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the > answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's > the only sane way to do things, since certain other platforms ship > retarded versions of sed.

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:32, Mike Frysinger wrote: > if you're implying we change all calls from 'sed' to 'gsed' in ebuilds then > the answer is no from my pov Can you at least read all my mails till the end before replying next time? I was referring mainly to the ones that calls sed from f

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:14:13 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Comments about this? (Please don't tell me to do a GLEP about this) We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It'

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 18:14, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's > present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of sed > (4.1.4; ppc-macos has no problem as the 4.0.9 version uses gsed anyway). if

[gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
I think the time is mature to ask for another step of Gentoo/ALT improvement ;) Currently ebuilds uses a sed syntax that's mostly GNU sed 4 compatible, but incompatible with BSD sed for instance. This is usually fine as we aliases sed to gsed in our bashrc so that the problem in sed calls is rem