Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-21 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 21 January 2013 12:16, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: I don't build server machines every day, others do and it would be much appreciated if they could respond here. I build

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-20 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 23:47 Sat 19 Jan , Walter Dnes wrote: ... On a lark, I once tried the default/linux/x86/10.0 profile for a re-install on my netbook without -*. I soon ended up with more - entries in make.conf and package.use, than I have add-on entries when using -*. And I was only half-way

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: I don't build server machines every day, others do and it would be much appreciated if they could respond here. I build catalyst stage4s. Any default profiles are kindof pointless for me; I have USE=-* and the flags that I want. Anything else seems a bit too

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-20 Thread Ben de Groot
On 21 January 2013 12:16, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: I don't build server machines every day, others do and it would be much appreciated if they could respond here. I build catalyst stage4s. Any default profiles are kindof pointless for me; I have

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-20 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:27:18 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 21 January 2013 12:16, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: I don't build server machines every day, others do and it would be much appreciated if they could respond here. I build

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 07:09:29AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote On Jan 17, 2013 3:35 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: If someone wants a *REALLY* basic system, they can start off with USE=-* and add on

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-17 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: If someone wants a *REALLY* basic system, they can start off with USE=-* and add on stuff as necessary when portage complains and/or ebuilds break. That's what I'd recommend to someone wanting to set up a basic server

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-17 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: my 2ct: * dri and cups should probably be moved to desktop profile * pppd is a local useflag and should be enabled by default in the capi ebuild Definitely agree. Can we make these changes? Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Jan 17, 2013 3:35 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: If someone wants a *REALLY* basic system, they can start off with USE=-* and add on stuff as necessary when portage complains and/or ebuilds break.

How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
I think we agree that the last state of the server profiles was not useful. So let's discuss what would be useful. For the medium-term future, not for this current step now. Err, ok, so now guys, we 're offering a base profile* with dri, cups, gmp, fortran and pppd(?) enabled, at the same

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-16 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:59:11AM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote Sure a server is something generic, too. However, since you mentioned mysql above, how about a postgres server? Or a web server using a daemon different from apache? :) This is why I think (as others) a server profile