Re: [gentoo-dev] dts useflag

2005-08-18 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Thursday 18 August 2005 05:29, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 18/08/2005-03:03:40(+0200): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types media-video/mplayer:dts - Enables libdts (5.1 surround sound audio) support I'll commit this tomorrow, when I'll be sure it's ok after an awake check. If nobody

Re: [gentoo-dev] dts useflag

2005-08-18 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 18 August 2005 05:29, Georgi Georgiev wrote: I am certain that I have watched DVDs that had DTS audio with 7 channels. Yeah but I'm not sure if libdts is capable to decode them.. Anyway I changed the description to dts - Enables libdts (DTS Coherent Acoustics decoder) support to

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Jackson
Use INSTALL_MASK to keep /usr/bin/mysqld or whatever from getting installed. We aren't generally in the habit of splitting packages into a bunch of different ebuilds. There are exceptions, but --Iggy Christian Parpart wrote: Hi all, well, regarding the request on bug 88490 [1] (and my

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Lance Albertson
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2005 10:28 am, Christian Parpart wrote: Do we have a general accepted gentoo policy for this? general policy is to not split packages (and i agree with this ...) bind and bind-tools is split ;) Why is it so bad to split packages? (I'm just

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:13:33 -0500 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | bind and bind-tools is split ;) Why is it so bad to split packages? | (I'm just curious) Seems a bit odd that we can't have a library only, | client only, etc package like the other distros. Of course, I | understand

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Francesco R
Luca Barbato wrote: Christian Parpart wrote: Using the minimal useflag for this - IMHO - is a misuse of the idea of minimal semantically - as I do understand minimal in a way like don't overbloat me with patches and other feature additions-alike. minimal is about keeping the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 10:17 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: 2) ebuild maintenance will be a nightmare- every new version will require again walking the source to see if the lines you've drawn for dividing the source are still proper. This is another good point. I have two split packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Francesco R
Lance Albertson wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2005 10:28 am, Christian Parpart wrote: Do we have a general accepted gentoo policy for this? general policy is to not split packages (and i agree with this ...) bind and bind-tools is split ;) Why is it

Re: [gentoo-dev] The make confusion

2005-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 18 August 2005 11:19 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: I'm thinking about adding bsdmk to main tree and make ash/csh use it to find pmake considering the number of packages that use pmake, why do you want an eclass for it ? i'd say just put the logic in the ebuilds themselves

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:37:05AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Other distributions are also binary-only, so there's no real comparison here. While I think having client and server type USE-flags is really a bad idea, I don't see a problem with providing a library. I 100% disagree with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE defaults

2005-08-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: | Kind of curious about people's opinion on the IUSE default use flag | thing, initial syntax was (using the above example) | IUSE=+client server | with client defaulting to on unless the user's config disables it- | note,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The make confusion

2005-08-18 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 18 August 2005 17:55, Mike Frysinger wrote: considering the number of packages that use pmake, why do you want an eclass for it ? i'd say just put the logic in the ebuilds themselves Add all the ones we use on G/FBSD overlay, and the count increase :) The eclass is currently in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE defaults

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:08:51AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Brian Harring wrote: | Kind of curious about people's opinion on the IUSE default use flag | thing, initial syntax was (using the above example) | IUSE=+client server | with client defaulting to on unless the user's config

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE defaults

2005-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 18 August 2005 12:31 pm, Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:08:51AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Brian Harring wrote: | Kind of curious about people's opinion on the IUSE default use flag | thing, initial syntax was (using the above example) | IUSE=+client server

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:56:06 -0500 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Best solution in my opinon? Two use flags address this, client, and | server. Regardless of the setting of the two, you get the library; | from there, you just set client and server as defaulting to on, and | packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] The make confusion

2005-08-18 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 18 August 2005 19:19, Mike Frysinger wrote: ok, but then you still have the fact that you're writting an eclass for a single function ... isnt that the point of eutils ? A part eutils being polluted, when pmake is used directly with bsd-style MK definitions, bsdmk take care of most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE defaults

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 01:16:05PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: As long as there is a way provided disable the 'default use flags' in this case referring to the IUSE=+foo stuff, with a big warning that says crap generally isn't expected to work great with that setting on, then thats fine. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Local USE defaults

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 01:18:17PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: Yes, very. Saves us from hacky local USE flag handling by naming them no* or adding them to profiles. Which then raises the question of whether or not -* in a users USE should disable it. I say no, since -* is mainly for

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 06:24:03PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:56:06 -0500 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Best solution in my opinon? Two use flags address this, client, and | server. Regardless of the setting of the two, you get the library; | from

Re: [gentoo-dev] The make confusion

2005-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 18 August 2005 01:28 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2005 19:19, Mike Frysinger wrote: ok, but then you still have the fact that you're writting an eclass for a single function ... isnt that the point of eutils ? A part eutils being polluted, when

Re: [gentoo-dev] The make confusion

2005-08-18 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 18 August 2005 21:33, Mike Frysinger wrote: then why not think bigger ... call it 'bsdeutils' or something rather than limiting yourself to bsd make Because for a mk-based project (and fbsd/dfly/nbsd source packages) we can just inherit bsdmk and src_compile and src_unpack are

[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Currently, things assigned to maintainer-wanted get the following keywords (bugzilla, not ebuild): * EBUILD if an ebuild is attached * REQUEST if an ebuild is requested I've been going through the EBUILD list at random and providing lists of things that need to be fixed before the ebuild can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Can anyone suggest a name? Best I can come up with is STYLE_CHECKED(nickname)... I like the idea. SYNTAX_CHECKED(nick) maybe? lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Bah! No I'm not, because Sven pointed out that it collides with the bugzilla resolution. So I'm going with CHECKED instead. Whoah! Isn't REVIEWED the perfect keyword? -- Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Grobian
Maurice van der Pot wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Bah! No I'm not, because Sven pointed out that it collides with the bugzilla resolution. So I'm going with CHECKED instead. Whoah! Isn't REVIEWED the perfect keyword? or APPROVED? -- Fabian

[gentoo-dev] last rites for dev-db/mysqltool

2005-08-18 Thread Francesco R
It's dead upstream and the ebuild need to be rewritten from scratch. Unless there is some volenterous it will be sadly removed 2005-08-29 See bugs 77539,93725 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:05:43PM +0200, Grobian wrote: Maurice van der Pot wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Bah! No I'm not, because Sven pointed out that it collides with the bugzilla resolution. So I'm going with CHECKED instead. Whoah! Isn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fernando J. Pereda wrote: I think APPROVED doesn't reflect the idea; since nobody 'approved' the ebuild. A developer just checked it looks good and 'seems to work'. REVIEWED or CHECKED make more sense imho. I like REVIEWED; it seems to reflect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-18 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:22:30 -0400 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Fernando J. Pereda wrote: | I think APPROVED doesn't reflect the idea; since nobody 'approved' | the ebuild. A developer just checked it looks good and 'seems to | work'. REVIEWED or CHECKED make more sense imho. | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 01:06:35AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:13:56 -0500 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | You're a bit vague in the 'die in pkg_setup' bit; if you're | referencing doing the changes now, and sticking a die in, I already | explicitly stated

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Christian Parpart
On Thursday 18 August 2005 19:01, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 18/08/2005-16:28:40(+0200): Christian Parpart types Using the minimal useflag for this - IMHO - is a misuse of the idea of minimal semantically - as I do understand minimal in a way like don't overbloat me with patches and

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Christian Parpart
On Thursday 18 August 2005 17:44, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 10:17 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: 2) ebuild maintenance will be a nightmare- every new version will require again walking the source to see if the lines you've drawn for dividing the source are still

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Luke-Jr
On Thursday 18 August 2005 17:01, Georgi Georgiev wrote: vanilla - Do not add extra patches which change default behaviour For features, I would expect individual USE flags-- what if I want one patch, but not another? For changing mere defaults, a gentoo USE flag seems like it would make

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:30:42AM +0200, Christian Parpart wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2005 17:44, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 10:17 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: 2) ebuild maintenance will be a nightmare- every new version will require again walking the source to see

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 19/08/2005-02:59:46(+): Luke-Jr types On Thursday 18 August 2005 17:01, Georgi Georgiev wrote: vanilla - Do not add extra patches which change default behaviour For features, I would expect individual USE flags-- what if I want one patch, but not another? I agree.